Carlos,Originally Posted by Carlos Primeros
Everyone always talks about Barra and Pelourinho, but I hate high rise housing. In what sections / neighborhoods can a person get a house with front and backyard and garage?
That's very helpful not adding any addresses of the prives that are "all around the city".Originally Posted by Palmisano
Parmesano might be right that some of the prives have closed since I made the report in April. They are propably still in the same building. Just ask the porteiro. These casas are definitely worth a visit when you head to centro. Parmesano wasn't lucky enough to sniff out the gems.
look at the condominios fechados at Praia Flamengo or further north at the side-roads towards the beach of the of the Av. Praia de Copacabana (Stella Mar area etc.) It is quite and safe there.
Concerning casas - I recommend to have a look at "A Tarde"-newspaper, they run ads there and you get the newest informations. Easy as that.
The best map of Salvador da Bahia is from the Prefeitura Municipal de Salvador (ie. mayor's office):
Now fellas. To say I left Rio sexually exhausted is an understatement. I didn't take anything down until Monday night b/c I was at my limit when I reached Salvador Saturday evening. Sure, if something fell in my lap of course I would pursue it but I was fine just relaxing and enjoying the beach.
In terms of the Salvador set up I ended up using a guy named Alain Zamrini (just google) to book an apartment. The apartment I booked was located in Barra right across from the beach. Now since there is not a lot written about Salvador I will give some general background/overview of the mongering scene. I will also throw in my two cents as to the type of individual who would like this place and considerations you should make as to whether to go or not. Most of what I will say has been stated by Sperto and Others (Thanks guys) I'm just adding on.
Salvador is huge. If I had to compare it to a major US metropolitan city I would compare it to Atlanta or LA in that you have to drive. Sure, you can take the bus places but at night time you really can't and if you want to jump around to multiple locations taxi fares add up pretty quickly. If you are only going one place that night then you are fine.
The scene is not point and click and is much more quieter/reserved than other places. If you are looking for it then you will find it but there is no hooker beach portion like Rio where you just post up and you pretty much know 80% of the girls and up in that area are available for the taking. Also, speaking porto while not mandatory is damn near close to mandatory. To put it another way, I was on a beachfront restaurant in Barra and after looking at the porto menu for 20 minutes with my dictionary the waitress realized I was American and gave me an English menu. I opened up the English menu and half of it was in Portuguese. WTF? It's like they decided that we had enough options. Just choose one. The girls on the other hand understand even less. I met a few who spoke other languages and one who spoke English so you can try. The scene is heavy with Italians so a lot of them are used to Italians as well. So where can you meet ladies.
The Beach or the stroll on Av. Oceanica
- The beach of course. All the chicas I eventually ended up with did some time on the beach. One chica even told me that she thinks she saw me on the beach 3 weeks earlier. So I will have to say that you can find them on the beach if you flash your pearly whites and also if you speak porto. The stroll is interesting. During the day I did not see anything. At night whatever I saw that was blatant though, I wouldn't touch but I have seen guys go home with a lot I wouldn't touch so hey, you never know. At some of the restaurants and other occasions I would have a very strong feeling that I was looking at action but the language barrier was a big bloc and I personally didn't feel like going up to four women and interrupting to find out if one is a gdp.
- I went to the mall 2x. The second time I know I saw gdp's. I said Hi in English and they ignored me but I'm pretty certain they were.
Strip Clubs and Boites (not quiet like Rio Termas/Boites)
- Strip clubs. I didn't hit any up. I did go to the Boites Eros, VIP, and Relax. None positive experiences but I will explain that in the report.
-Santissima on a Monday Night. Barbara (sp?) every other night of the week. Every report I read talks about Santissima on a Monday night and how you have to go and check it out. I never made it to Barbara but that is another spot that jumps when Santissima is not.
Peloriounho (sp?) or also called Centro Historico
- I spent a lot of time in Pelo and had a blast. For those that don't know Pelo is similar to Old Montreal in feel. Cobble stone streets, small buildings, ton of bars/café/etc feel. Also, there are a ton of street walkers there and pretty much it is easy to pull something home.
Now, at the beginning of the report I gave some detailed info particularly concerning race/etc. Now is where I will bring this up. When reading up on Salvador one comment always came up don't worry, they will find you just smile and it will come. I think this works if you look as though you don't belong. So if you look Italian and wear clothing that identifies you as such it works. While I was in Brazil although I normally dress up with flare I toned it down. I didn't even have any shirts with writing on it and I actually blended in very well. Maybe too well as I was not approached by one person the entire time I was there. I only have my word to go on this one but I do smile, I'm a fairly social guy and travel by myself a lot so I don't think it was me being overly conservative/etc. I just am calling it as I see it. I had a great time in Salvador and I actually think that was the highlight of my trip but that deals with the cultural aspect of it more so than the mongering. If you probably stand out or are white, you will get approached. Not so much if you don't.
Day 1 & 2
As listed above, not much happened at the beach however I did go to Pelo both Saturday night and Sunday night. The weekend I was there was the holiday weekend for Brazilian Black Consciousness and I'm not sure if Pelo changed on Saturday and Sunday from it's usual self for that but I am assuming it did. On both nights there was a massive outdoor performance along with numerous other things going on inside of bars. I hoped around and saw everything from brazilian hip-hop, samba, reggae, breakdancing competitions, American music, contemp brazilian, etc. On both nights I was in the massive crowd watching the performance and had a great time. Sunday night the crowd seemed a little bit younger and there were two different fights that I saw first hand on top of the usual shoving, pushing, etc. None of which I minded but probably not everyone's cup of tea but I will just clarify that there is a lot to do where you wouldn't put yourself in that situation.
Now while walking around though both of those nights I strolled on Praca and also went in and out of a lot of bars and was never approached by any females. Not even any smiles back really. I enjoyed my time tremendously though b/c I enjoyed the cultural aspect.
Let's start this day where it should for a mongering post. In the evening. The plans for me was to hit up Eros and then head over to Santissima. Grabbed a cab to head over to Eros and the cab driver was pretty talkative. First one I ran into that was actually trying to break the language barrier. Asked how much for him to be driver all night and he said R$200. I said I will pass and then we got to EROS probably around 7:45pm and it was closed. WTF? I didn't look at the website but what time does this ish open. So now I have two choices, head straight to Santissima and know that it doesn't pick up until 10 or 11, get out and walk around, or head back to Barra. So cab driver and I negotiate and we decide on R$180 for him to be driver for the night. I will note that there were a few gdp's standing across from EROS. At this time I thought they were just average lookers but based on the street walkers I saw the rest of the night these girls were smoking hot. That's not a good thing by the way. So with that decided we head over to VIP. Get to VIP and VIP is closed. WTF? I'm starting to see a trend here. So I was thinking I should just head up to Santissima and cab driver is like that's a bad idea. Nothing is going on up there. Too early. So ok, I'm hungry. So I hit up a place and grab something to eat. It's about 9 now. Something has to be open. So we pass by EROS again. They are open and let me look before I go in and it is absolutely dead. 1 or two chicas that I wouldn't touch. Ok, no problem try VIP again, same deal. VIP guys are a little more cool and offering to let me hang out for a while without paying the fee but I'm like I will pass.
Head out the spot and cab driver is like I have a friend who is in Barra. I show you her. I'm telling him though that no matter how good looking she is I'm still heading out to Santissima b/c I need to see what it is like. He is like, no problem. Secretly, I think he was hoping that I would link up with his chica and he would of made some easy money for the night. LOL.
Anyway, we head back down to barra, stop at some street walkers on the way and when we get down to barra and see his amiga she is actually really fucking pretty. Real cute. We pull up the car and he talks to her, she asks him if I speak porto and he says no and she is like, ahhh this is going to be a problem. Anyway, we get in the car. She touchy feely but not overbearing. I grab the phone number and ask her how much. She throws out R$300. So now I'm like ok, time to hit up Santissima. I think on the way up to Santissima we may of passed through EROS and VIP just one more time but whatever I reach Santissima about 10: 45 or 11 and grab a seat.
Now what is the vibe like at Santissima. It is a huge restaurant with a dance floor and a stage performance. You can pretty much see the stage and dance floor from everywhere and the night I was there two bands performed. The first was a cover band with a woman leading and by the time the second got on I was too busy talking to gdp's to care. Second was better though (hard to beat a band with two midgets dancing) and they switched over probably around 1 or 2. At around 11:15 to 11:45 is when all the gdp's really started to come in. I would say there was probably anywhere from 40-60 gdps. At the beg of the night seeing as though families/etc are still there it is real proper. Girls have to sit at their own tables and can't come up to the guys. You can call the girls over to your table to sit down and talk with you though. By the end of the night though it didn't seem as though those rules were in place anymore.
I had a good time at Santissima. Although I did not take anyone out of the place with me, I probably left with around 6 numbers and some overall pricing on all of the girls. Also, what they were and were not willing to do in the bed. I decided I was going to go with the girl the taxi driver introduced me to. On the way up to Santissima. I told him that no fucking brazilian would pay her R$300 much less R$100 and that that was out of the question. I would do 150 for 1 pop and 200 for TLN which I told him was still being generous. He called her and cleared the pricing and then told her I would maybe get back to her. So, now that I was done at Santissima it was 2:30 in the morning and I called her up.
I ended up getting a ride from an American I met and we stopped by Relax bar as it was closing down. Only two chicas left. Looked decent. But I already had my plans set up. So I met up with the chica and I would have to say it was excellent sex. Excellent. But that would be too simple right. In the morning the chica did not want to do anything and so we started arguing. I don't know what the fuck the point of TLN is if I don't get two pops. I gave her the $200 as I didn't want to argue over the R$50 but that left a sour taste in my mouth. Great sex. Really great sex though.
Just came back from a month stay in Salvador, fuck this must be the most boring city in brazil, got some good strip clubs but everthing is to expensive to long betveen the spots and to quiet, I been to a lot of citys in brazil but salvador was realy shitt, evferybody was talking about the carneval, I know its good there in carneval but thats a week every year, I got lucky and found a bisexual freebee so I had my fun but compered to other sitys its realy shitt I speak portugese and been around. Trust me. Its not wurth it.
Sorry to hear that you found Salvador boring, you should have "rtff", there are a lot of good informations. The problem in Salvador is that the girls have different meeting-points during the week and you have to know their routine. Then you meet them.
Also there are 4. 5 casas which are good but you have to know where theiy are. If you are fist time there then it is difficult.
Morro de São Paulo, update:
* It's much less tourist on Morro this year, that goes for both brazilian and foreign tourists.
* Morro have now become even more expensive. Most pousadas have doubled their prices since last year. Brazilian way of doing business. Less demand, business is going bad... let's double our prices so we can make som money. Stupidity.
* It can be a hassle to find a pousada that allows girls to visit you room. I solved that problem by giving the pousada owners sweet assistent a daily dose of gringo sex.
* Beaches: Beautiful.
* Arriving/leaving: Boats from Salvador, Valença or flights from Salvador.
* Party: Different places depending on the day of the week. Beach party at 2:nd beach, beach party at Funny, beach party on 3:rd beach, party at Teatro, Toca or Pulsar.
* This info goes mainly for high season. In low season it´s much less happening.
1. Local girls, non-GP's. Lovely black ladies with bubble-butts. My preferred category as I know many locals.
2. Brazilian tourist girls. A hard option this year as there were very few of them.
3. Gringo girls. Backpacker girls. Mostly israelis or chilenians. There are lots of beautiful girls from Chile. Not easy to score.
4. Pro's. About 15-20 girls working tricks on the beach and on the parties. Mostly girls from Valença and some from Salvador. Most of them have been around for a couple of years. The average standard of them is quite good. They ask for R$ 100 but goes down to about R$ 50. I didn't try any of them so I can' tell if it's good value or not. I see no reason to pay for sex when the free sex is easy available.
Sperto said, "Brazilian way of doing business. Less demand, business is going bad... let's double our prices so we can make som money."
Lol. Yes, Brazilian logic! Give a chicken that lays gold eggs to a Brasilian, they will wait for it to lay an egg, and then kill it, then fazer a churrasco! WTF!?
I have only seen pics of Morro de Sao Paulo, looks like a cool place to take a date. Not a big fan of Bahia, with the exception of their sobremesas.
Its a matter of preference. Help us understand your criteria. Where did you live during that month? What type of woman do you prefer? Clue us in. I do agree that things can be spread out and that there is no actual "ground zero" for ladies but there are plenty of gorgeous girls and nice relationships to be had from my experience there.Originally Posted by Tomjoha
I stayed in barra next to the light house where I rented a house. Don't get me wrong I had a good time there, was lucky to find a no pro girl working at a clothing shopp in barra, she was also into girls so that helped a lott. I went to Rio vermelho barra. Places like vip, eros, santissima, I found the places to be good but realy small and the same girls, I like black girls so salvador is good becouse of that but the prices are expensiv and its a lott of time going around in a taxi. I speak portugese so I manige to have a good time wherever in brazil I go, but I think theres a bit problematic going there with no portugese
I love to party so the party cene there compered to Natal fortaleza etc is moore layed back so it was a bit booring, I lived 3 years in Natal and prefer the party cene there a lott better but I love black girls so in that case salvador was good. But to pick up a non pro you realy need portugese.
This is an extremely valuable piece of information that you have given. I arrived here on Friday afternoon to meet a non-pro and debated whether to get a car or not. After checking prices at all the rental car companies and getting a minimum price of R$345 (US$192) for 3 days I decided not to. Big fucking mistake. My reasoning was that 1. That is a hell of a lot of money for a car for 3 days. 2. The car I have reserved next week in Florianopolis for 3 days only set me back US$100.Originally Posted by Galvin
I went upstairs to the departure level to catch a taxi who was dropping someone off. I told him that I was going to Rio Vermelho. He started at 70 and I countered with 50. He said that it's regularly over 80 for that route. Again I told him 50. We settled at 60. When he dropped me off at the Ibis I told him to come pick me up Monday to go back to the airport.
My non-pro arrived at 8:30pm. We got down to business then later decided to go out. We took a taxi to Bahia Cafe, which was closed on a Friday night, so we continued to Pelourinho. R$33. Not much was going on there either so we took another taxi back to the hotel. R$40. As Galvin said, these taxi fares are adding up pretty quickly. I haven't done a gd thing here yet but have already spent R$190 in taxi fares if you count my trips from and to the airport.
I had done some walking around in Rio Vermelho before my girl arrived and had stopped in at a rental car agency which was next door to the hotel. After Friday night I knew it was in my best interest to invest in a car. When we woke up Saturday morning we went to get a car. A 2 door manual, no A/C with 100km/day was the cheapest thing at R$65/day. Compare this to a car with A/C and unlimited km for R$107/day. I rented the cheapest one for 2 days and had to make a R$1500 (US$865) deposit.
All in all, I will end up spending R$190 in taxi and R$130 in rental car for a total of R$320, when I could have just spent R$345 at the airport from the beginning and gotten a car with A/C and unlimited km and not had to worry about it anymore. Transportation around this place is an S.O.B.
Hi Mr. E.
you are right, Salvador is very big and you need a car. I usually rent a car (Palio or similar) in the range of BR 70 with AC as it is sometimes getting quite hot and humid. With the BR 70 - rate you should get a 100 km/day allowance and you really do not drive more than that if you stay within the city-limits. Only going up to Costa de Sauipe you might need to change the rental-agreement.
I use various locadoras - I usually check their special offers in the internet and decide then. They bring the car to the air-port for no extra charge and meet you also at the airport to collect the car. A 1000 - 1500 BR deposit (on your credit-card) is within the normal range. I was just one week ago in Salvador and I paid BR 69 / day with 100 km free milage.
Taxis are really setting you back too far and at some places it is not easy to get immediately a taxi. When I take two girls to a motel (my hotel would not let me take two girls in) I really like to have a car as the motels are in the outskirts and taxis are difficult to get there. Also when you go to the beaches like Praia de Futuro it would be difficult to get a taxi back.
Yes - a rental car is the best option.
I just returned from a trip to Rio and SP. And had great experiences in both thanks in large part to the postings on this forum. I am heading to Salvador in a few weeks. A quick question though. Reading through the postings for Salvador, lots of discussion of GDPs and discussion of some of the cassa's, clubs etc, but I am wondering if anyone has any experience of independents I could select online, such as those at Bella's in SP, who would offer a GFE? Of course, it doesn't help that I speak almost no Portuguese.
Thanks in advance
GFE in Salvador is possible, but a bit difficult to get. The scene has calmed down since many European (especially Italian) flights to Salvador were stopped. So you can find girls on the beaches, but they're not very obvious and they often won't approach you (especially if you don't clearly look like a foreigner). You usually find girls on the streets, but the scene is not very centralized (except maybe Pelourinho) and you need to be lucky to find a good one. Santissima is also a good location, but only on Monday. The websites you can forget: usually overpriced because of mostly having only white meat on offer (60+% of Salvador are African heritage), so for websites etc. you better go to Rio etc. .
What can work quite well (but you should have some Portuguese) is to mix with the locals. Try your hotel staff, your hairdresser or go out at night to one of the music bars. Many of the girls there will spend weeks with you only for getting treated nice (Brazilian men are machos!), but you need to invest some hours.
Please note that the upper class girls are usually extremely hard to get.
If you still want to try in the internet, google and search for "acompanhantes" + salvador / bahia etc., this should work quite well. Also write braSil instead of braZil, otherwise you'll only get the international sites (= overpriced and little selection).
Originally Posted by Tsugi
Man, I got caught up with RL and didn't finish my trip report. I'll try to add in another day or so. Just realized when I clicked in on this report. Things may have changed by now but I'll give what happened to me in last November as I'm sure I have my notes somewhere around.Originally Posted by Meat Loaf
I'm going to Salvador for the first time in August. From what I read from the thread, it seems like Salvador scene is not like Rio or Sampa. Do they also operate in clinicas or more private places? What are the recommended places in Salvador in safer areas? And what is the average price there?
In February this year Av Sete de Setembro 184 was still active. Ask the porteiro which Salas that are working. The casas move around a bit in that building.Originally Posted by Smcruisin
I visited several other casas in that area. All located in the middle of the commercial area. I will take a look and see if I can find the addresses.
My first post so be gentle:
This past November I spent 5 days in this beautiful city. This being my 2nd trip I did not need to do any tourist activities. I was ready to apply the knowledge obtained through all the valuable information on this board. I befriended a very cool taxi driver from my earlier trip in June so he knew the drill after dark. Each night we pretty much drove up and down the main street checking out all the spots along the beaches like VIP and Bankok, but at the end of the night we always ended up at EROS.
This club is pretty nice guys especially if you are looking for a variety, morenas, loiras, mulattos, negras more importantly bunda which is my taste! The inside looks like a typical american strip club. I would say on any given night there are 30. 40 girls, at least 10 or so 9s and plenty of 8s roaming inside EROS club. There is a show where you can take in some pole dancing and drinks. In no time girls standing around the club and the bar will migrate to you.
Here is the approximate damage of each of my 5 nights. This probably does not come as news to anyone but pay to play in Salvador is not cheap! I have to mention also that out of the 5 girls I took from EROS only 3 spent the whole night in my room. Could be bc I am a gringo but my portuguese is pretty good which was the main reason for my popularity and also I had built up quite the reputation amongst the girls.
R$40 entrance (can't remember how many drinks this includes too many distractions)
R$20 doorman (guy was cool but a little aggressive said something like he was my "security" LOL.
R$50 taxi / tip.
Total : R$360.
As much fun as I had with all the girls from EROS I was a litle disappointed with the one pop one play that a couple of these girls tried to pull back at the hotel especially since we negotiated all night or 3 hours. Guess everyone has to make a living LOL. Most of the EROS girls also hang out at a restaurant / bar called Bambarra but they tend to sit in the back and wait to make eye contact. You can try to make deals outside the club.
The hotel I stayed in during my trip was called Orthon Palace in Ondina. The reception area does not hassle you when you check your lady friend in but on one occassion a female receptionist gave me grief and quoted R$80 a night lecture for a guest. I have never seen this in the final bill during checkout so I consider them guest friendly. It's more of a guest safety thing and all the security guys are looking out for you.
All and all I know I have a lot to learn about this wonderful hobby but I had a great time. Not bad approx US$1, 100 for great sex, no drama, safe environment, no weird rashes and possibly the best 5 nights of my life (in recent memory)! I'd do it all over again.
Wow. Over $200US to bang a ho in Salvador de Bahia. Things have certainly changed. I haven't been to Salvador in 3 years or so, but I guess things are different. In several trips there I only went to Eros once and promptly left when asked for an entrance fee. We had a free range of girls from Casquina the' Siri (called something else now which I can't recall) and from taxi drivers. They were our best friends with a plethora of beautiful girls. We never payed more than 150R (usually 100R).
Anyway, thanks for the report.
Brasil and Bahia have changed.
You still pay for TLN 200 reais. But a couple of years ago it was 65 USD. Today it is 130 USD, but due to the de-valuation of the USD.
Brasil has simply priced itself out of the market. With the World Championship comming up it will be even worse. Now even the Brasilian government and the Central Bank is trying to correct the exchange-rate of the Real and they have introduced to foreign capitals a negative interest rate.
Let us see where it will lead us.
In Salvador there are several Casas, prices range from 70 Real to 200. Depending on the casa and also on the quality of the girls. Manaus and the entire north of Brasil are in this respect considerably cheaper. Refer also to Sperto's reports.
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