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  1. Sovanmee
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    Phnom Penh nightlife is still good

    Hi all,

    I would like to inform all of you guys about the night life scence in Phnom Penh. Currently the hostes bars, pub and disco are running thier business as usual. As like a bounch street 104 (Rose bar, Zanzibar, 104bar.), 108street (golden wine bar, zapata bar.), 136 street (Palm Bar, 136 Bar, 69 Bar, Up and Down Bar.), Sharky's Bar, DV8, Mikado, Le Cyrce, Shang Hai, Walkabout and Matiny Bar. And also back to normal the brothels along 63street and 145street.

    Cheers
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  2. Broko
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    Phnom Penh night scene

    Originally Posted by Sovanmee
    Hi all,

    I would like to inform all of you guys about the night life scence in Phnom Penh. Currently the hostes bars, pub and disco are running thier business as usual. As like a bounch street 104 (Rose bar, Zanzibar, 104bar.), 108street (golden wine bar, zapata bar.), 136 street (Palm Bar, 136 Bar, 69 Bar, Up and Down Bar.), Sharky's Bar, DV8, Mikado, Le Cyrce, Shang Hai, Walkabout and Matiny Bar. And also back to normal the brothels along 63street and 145street.

    Cheers
    What is business as usual? Lapdancing again? Sexy dresses? Not closing at midnight? Tinted doors back?

    Sure the bars are open.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  3. Aussie_Fella
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    Originally Posted by Natty Bumpo
    We can only hope things get back to normal after the September deadline you mentioned.
    Amen brother. I booked a trip for November some time ago so will be traveling to Cambodia whether mongering is readily available or not. There's plenty to see in the country but whether or not to return will be based partly on how enjoyable my nights are.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  4. Channy
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    Originally Posted by Broko
    It is more complex than that.

    1. You might think that "honorable mongerers" contribute a lot of money to the economy. But thats not right. Cambodia is more dependent on the money from NGO's and Western governments. And those parties don't like what was going on in PP and because those parties are in the process of evaluating their support to Cambodia for next year (deadline end of September) the government decided to show them that they are dealing with the "problem".

    2. Especially for street 136 a new luxe appartment hotel has been build there owned by Khmers with a good network and as the rumour goes those Kmers don't like the hostess bars there mainly visited by Barangs.

    3. Cambodia is not Thailand. No US soldiers went overhere in the 70-ties to release their tension. Values are different. And if the bar owners try to stretch the limits too much they get into problems.

    4. Not only hostess bars targetting for barangs are hit. Also FL's around What Phnom, brothels aiming for locals in several other cities are hit.

    So IMHO it has all to do with economics on a macro level and nothing to do with national pride or economics on a micro level.

    Will it last? Who knows?

    By the way Snooky is not hit at the moment.
    you re right on many point.

    1 khmer don t appreciate barang bar scene, also entire part of phnom penh like the strip bar will be "erased". The economic slowdown has just stop temporary the mall project.

    2) most of the bars owner are "new barang" few of them live in Cambodia from more than 2 years, so they the strech the limt simply because they don t know the limits and the culture of the country

    I will not follow on one point. If the khmer governement is very dependant of ngo money and international help (especially with the economic slowdown) the khmer government has no interest to solved the problem. If they solved the problem the money will not come anymore. Yes like you said they SHOW they treated the problem but in reality they "cultivated "the situation in their advantage. It s exactly the same with NGO. Ngo volunteer is a job. A well paid job at 2000/3000 us dollars per month, with car, house. People from ngo has also no interest to see the end of the prostitution scene. Simply because if the scene disappear, most of them will lost their good job.

    So last events was a big show.organised by khmer government and Ngo to impressed their donators

    Just a sentence from a khmer report movie "the paper cannot wraped embers " from the khmer producer Rithy pahn.; a young hooker at "the building" had sister with infected by aids. And she got not support from NGo saying: "here Ngo if you have aids. They don t give you medication, they just paid the coffin" COFFIN= look how many people die from aids in this poor country please donate

    MEDICATIONS to cure aids= waste of money. How to show this to your donator for they give you more money? . Useless.; a death people is more profitable.; simply ngo way of thinking.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  5. Phantomtiger2
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    Originally Posted by Sovanmee
    Hi all,

    And also back to normal the brothels along 63street and 145street.

    Cheers

    I think he meant 154st as I don't remember seeing any places on 145st last time.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  6. Phantomtiger2
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    Originally Posted by Broko
    Living in Snooky

    Hey Broko, Had to add this on this thread as I was unable to PM you.

    since you're the man in Snooky, do you know if its possible now to rent motobikes in Snooky without having to get the Cambodian drivers licence, as I heard they will detain /heavy fine your rental bike without the license if stopped.
    Friend of mine wanted to know as he plan to be there in early Nov. He's not a cityxguide.com member yet but I'm working on that.

    PT
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  7. Native_Humper
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    Sex history in PP

    I have read this forum with a lot of interest for many years. I have also traveled to Cambodia many times during these years. My first trip to Cambodia was in 1993 and at that time the country was in turmoil from the Khmere Rouge activities that were in their final end stages. The country was crawling with UN troops at that time. Back then I did not have the cityxguide.com to guide me and I did not carouse the city to search for venues, I just asked the hotel person to get me a girl. They always brought them no problem. Then one of my friends who is Cambodian introduced me to some people who knew where to find girls. These were always some shacks near the edge of PP where a mama would have 3-4 girls available. Most of these were new fresh recruites so they were not very experienced or good at what they did.
    I was able to meet the private secretary of Norodom Raddarith who was the Prime Minister at that time. He took me and my Cambodian friend on a tour of the countryside in Cambodia and one of the stops that we made, were to a river house that served as a restarant and brothel. It was a floating structure and there were two little rooms for doing the deed. Cost was .1 Girls were mostly Viet's. As we traveled through the countryside it was easy to see that girls were available at every town we came too and my Cambodian host was sure to point this out to me.
    I have returned to Cambodia about every three years since that first visit and with the help of the cityxguide.com I have seen so many changes over time. One thing that I can say with confidence is that there will always be girls offered for sex there. Maybe the atmosphere will change as I have already seen it change from my first visit, but it will always be there. It is in the Cambodian culture and will never go away. This is also seen in most other Asian countries I have visited so it is a Asian thing and is firmly rooted in their society.
    All things undergo change and so there should not be a surprise that this subject will also change. Some will like it as they found it when they first came there, and these individuals may be unhappy with the change. I also miss Sophies etc. but I still look for new places to get excited about. I have had a lot of fun with some beer girls, karoke girls and massage girls. I try to stay away from the regular monger hangouts because I have found them to be less that what I consider good hunting places. In these places, all of the girls know the drill and they all are adept at manipulating us in one way or another.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  8. The_Scout
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    Originally Posted by Broko
    What is business as usual? Lapdancing again? Sexy dresses? Not closing at midnight? Tinted doors back?

    Sure the bars are open.
    I have seen tinted windows, but no lap dances, sexy dresses, and I don't know the time they close.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  9. Water_Boy
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    Originally Posted by Shadow6491
    In most of the hostess bars the number of girls has been slashed and it wasnt the fatter older uglier girls either. There are about 3 bars that have kept up the numbers of girls.
    Thanks, Shadow

    It sounds like the police are saying "Prostitution is OK, just not in great quantity"

    This is either...

    a) A show of force to appease the NGO's

    b) A way to drive up prices (by reducing supply).
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  10. Wendella
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    Originally Posted by Water Boy
    Thanks, Shadow

    It sounds like the police are saying "Prostitution is OK, just not in great quantity"

    This is either...

    a) A show of force to appease the NGO's

    b) A way to drive up prices (by reducing supply).
    Must wonder how this has affected the local oriented places, both high and low end.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  11. Riverstar
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    Bars

    Still a lively scene in PP, I enjoy the Happy Man Bar and 136 Bar. There is a girl in 136 called Yen Ok she has a little too much around the waist but she enjoys sex just as much as she enjoys the money and will leave you exhusted in the morning.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  12. Jsayla
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    L'Imprevu?

    Hello all,

    I have gained and used wisdom from this board several times. This trip I will be in Phnom Penh for a week and thought I'd stay 4 nights at Flamingo then 4 nights more layback at L'Imprevu a bit out of town in Kien Svay. I can find info on the hotel but not what is nearby such as nightlife or friendly bars. I will be travelling alone but do not plan to stay alone. So does anyone know about L'Imprevu and the area?

    Thanks for your help.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  13. The_Scout
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    Originally Posted by Phantomtiger2
    Hey Broko, Had to add this on this thread as I was unable to PM you.

    since you're the man in Snooky, do you know if its possible now to rent motobikes in Snooky without having to get the Cambodian drivers licence, as I heard they will detain /heavy fine your rental bike without the license if stopped.
    Friend of mine wanted to know as he plan to be there in early Nov. He's not a cityxguide.com member yet but I'm working on that.

    PT
    If you're from the U.S., for $15 and two 2"x2" passport photos you can get an international drivers license which is valid for 1 year and many countries including Cambodia. It's always a safe bet.

    http://www.aaa.com/vacation/idpapplc.html

    If you're from another country, you could search Google to see if or where you can get one in your country. I'd assume it's available because the U.S. application says this before listing valid countries:

    "Geographical Areas Which Honor International Driving Permits (Convention on Road Traffic, United Nations, Geneva 1949) as of January, 2009"
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  14. Shadow6491
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    There is nothing around L'Imprevu. A very nice place to go out to on a hot day with a few girls for a swim, but as a place to stay by yourself I think you may regret it.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  15. Jsayla
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    Thank you Shadow, that is exactly what I needed to know. I'll look for something similar but with areas of interest, maybe closer to town but a bit out of it.

    Any suggestions?
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  16. Tcvve
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    Can you help me identify this place.

    Hi.

    My info is somewhat sketchy.

    I was in Sharkey last night sharing pickup venues with a fellow monger. He mention a place that begins with the letter "P" maybe Promogade2 not very sure. The girls coming there look very pretty.

    Anyways, he mention This is strictly a Freelancer joint where the girls come in and always dress in a nice short dress. No jeans. They negotiate the price.

    Prices can be had for $20-25 (but negotiable).

    He said if you see a girl in Hearts wearing a nice dress, she probably came from this place earlier in the evening.

    On a good weekend night there can be 40-50 Freelancers working there.

    Unfortunately, I cannot remember the name but most motorbike drivers would know the place if mentioned.

    Does anyone have an Idea?

    Thanks.
    TC.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  17. Shadow6491
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    It may be Pontoon.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  18. Channy
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    Originally Posted by Native Humper
    I have read this forum with a lot of interest for many years. I have also traveled to Cambodia many times during these years. My first trip to Cambodia was in 1993 and at that time the country was in turmoil from the Khmere Rouge activities that were in their final end stages. The country was crawling with UN troops at that time. Back then I did not have the cityxguide.com to guide me and I did not carouse the city to search for venues, I just asked the hotel person to get me a girl. They always brought them no problem. Then one of my friends who is Cambodian introduced me to some people who knew where to find girls. These were always some shacks near the edge of PP where a mama would have 3-4 girls available. Most of these were new fresh recruites so they were not very experienced or good at what they did.

    I was able to meet the private secretary of Norodom Raddarith who was the Prime Minister at that time. He took me and my Cambodian friend on a tour of the countryside in Cambodia and one of the stops that we made, were to a river house that served as a restarant and brothel. It was a floating structure and there were two little rooms for doing the deed. Cost was .1 Girls were mostly Viet's. As we traveled through the countryside it was easy to see that girls were available at every town we came too and my Cambodian host was sure to point this out to me.
    I have returned to Cambodia about every three years since that first visit and with the help of the cityxguide.com I have seen so many changes over time. One thing that I can say with confidence is that there will always be girls offered for sex there. Maybe the atmosphere will change as I have already seen it change from my first visit, but it will always be there. It is in the Cambodian culture and will never go away. This is also seen in most other Asian countries I have visited so it is a Asian thing and is firmly rooted in their society.

    All things undergo change and so there should not be a surprise that this subject will also change. Some will like it as they found it when they first came there, and these individuals may be unhappy with the change. I also miss Sophies etc. but I still look for new places to get excited about. I have had a lot of fun with some beer girls, karoke girls and massage girls. I try to stay away from the regular monger hangouts because I have found them to be less that what I consider good hunting places. In these places, all of the girls know the drill and they all are adept at manipulating us in one way or another.
    Nice report,

    I will just said that Cambodian scene in phnom penh and siem reap and others town has change mainly under the influence of NGO, and after with the flux of farang from Thailand (more thai style bar and less brothels, negative girls attitude, more greedy cops asking for tea money)

    The scene in Thailand has not change so much compare with Cambodia. In my case, like you, I don't care because I go to bar for meeting people, not for taking girl. The old mongering scene has not totally disappear.

    Ps just think about your chance to meet and became friend with high rank civil servant now?
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  19. Channy
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    What's the law said about bar scene

    Just read this (take from free and excellent bayon pearnik magazine) and you will undertand why now barang scene are clearly targeted for more money of course, but also for lack of connection inside politician and army, barang customers are too precious, so nothing against them for the moment

    Bar owners please read the two Cambodian Laws below: Law on Suppression of the Kidnapping and Trafficking of Hu m a and P e are s o and s a and d Exploitation of Human Persons. Article. 4.. Shall be deemed to be a brothel. Keeper or a pimp whoever:

    Assists or p rotects one or many persons, by whatever means, with knowledge before the assistance or protection, of the prostitution of that person or persons, or solicits clients for him/her or them for the purpose of prostitution; or regularly shares the profits derived from the prostitution, in whatever form; or trains or coaxes, by whatever means, a male or female to engage in prostitution; or 4- Acts as a middleman, in whatever form, establishing contacts between male/ female prostitutes and the brothelkeeper or the provider of profit for the prostitution of other persons; or allows a make or females to live at his/her house or any other place for the purpose of engaging him/her in prostitution for his/her profit.

    Art I CL e. 7.. Whoever establishes a place to commit an immoral or obscene act shall be punished from 1 to 5 years impri sonment and from 5, 000, 000 (five million riels) to 30, 000, 000 (thirty million riels) fines. In case of repeated offense, the punishment shall be doubled.
    So what does obscene mean? Anything the cops want it to be (sexy dancing).

    Barfines come under profits derived from prostitution. Make sure girls have ID's and are real.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  20. Wendella
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    Originally Posted by Shadow6491
    It may be Pontoon.
    Does his description fit? I'm a some time visitor to PP -- this is a new one to me. Can you tell us more about it? Maybe compare it to another place, such as Martini. (and where is it? sounds like it must be on the river, judging by the name)

    Jeez, if some guy in Sharky told me about a place like that, I'd write the dang name down and find out where it was before he had a chance to have a heart attack or something. Actually, I'd probably finish my beer and head right over there. Male bonding's great but... 50 freelancers at low prices: "nice to meet you... we'll do lunch. Seeya."

    btw I don't know anything about the area aound L'Imprevu (I actually don't even know where it is). Where did you find out about it? Tripadvisor? No photos there. Would be interested to see what the place looks like. I noticed on Tripadvisor there was one person who complained about how the staff turn a blind eye to men accompanied by local ladies. They seemed bothered by that, whereas I can imagine you read that and thought "Wow! Great!" ;-)
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  21. Jsayla
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    Originally Posted by Wendella
    btw I don't know anything about the area aound L'Imprevu (I actually don't even know where it is). Where did you find out about it? Tripadvisor? No photos there. Would be interested to see what the place looks like. I noticed on Tripadvisor there was one person who complained about how the staff turn a blind eye to men accompanied by local ladies. They seemed bothered by that, whereas I can imagine you read that and thought "Wow! Great!" ;-)
    I did originally read about it in TripAdviser and then googled it. Some good reports and a nice website but they haven't replied. No surprise there. It's about 7km out on National Highway One. If that's not the correct name I hope you know which one I mean.
    Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
  22. Shadow6491
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    The description doesnt really fit otherwise you would have heard about it before. The bar with dancing that starts with P that bit fits.

    Pontoon is a floating bar at the end of street 108 it does have dancing and music and there is the odd freelancer there. Not a place I would go to find girls though.

    As for L Imprevu it is 7km past the Monivong bridge on route 1 the highway to Vietnam. There is nothing around it but a few other swimming type resorts and beer gardens. In total it is about 11km out of town on a really bad and busy road so it takes quite a long time to get there.
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    • Wendella
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      Originally Posted by Shadow6491
      The description doesnt really fit otherwise you would have heard about it before. The bar with dancing that starts with P that bit fits.

      Pontoon is a floating bar at the end of street 108 it does have dancing and music and there is the odd freelancer there. Not a place I would go to find girls though.
      So the guy at Sharky was talking crap, then, eh?

      Sounds like L'Imprevu isn't a place for me. That's really far.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Tcvve
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      Originally Posted by Shadow6491
      It may be Pontoon.
      That sounds like the place. He did invite me to go with him last week, but I had other plans. He seem to be firm on his statement the place can fill up with girls on weekends. Just to look for something new, I will take a peak there this coming Saturday and see if it's worth his hype.

      Thanks
      TC.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Shadow6491
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      I agree it may fill up with girls (and guys) dancing, but freelancers looking for barang customers is not its main stay.

      You could say that DarkRoom, Orange Club or Riverside Lounge are the same. Yes they have hostess girls that go there after work and some freelancers but the girls go there to have fun on their days off or with friends to pick up Khmer boyfriends.

      I have been to these places with hostess bar girls when one of them is having a birthday party or similar.

      At all of the above places it is possible to find working girls just dont assume that they are all working.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • The_Scout
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      Originally Posted by Wendella
      So the guy at Sharky was talking crap, then, eh?

      Sounds like L'Imprevu isn't a place for me. That's really far.
      Maybe it was Friday or Saturday when Pontoon was busy.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Sovanmee
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      Kien Svay is similar to K11

      As for L Imprevu it is 7km past the Monivong bridge on route 1 the highway to Vietnam. There is nothing around it but a few other swimming type resorts and beer gardens. In total it is about 11km out of town on a really bad and busy road so it takes quite a long time to get there.[/QUOTE]I think.You did not know this site for sure. There were couple of good places around. As like flooting restaurants+LADIES and Kien Svay"s brothels.There are pretty girls waitting for you guys. These places good during the day.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Natty_Bumpo
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      Kien Svay and Kampot

      Originally Posted by Sovanmee
      As like flooting restaurants+LADIES and Kien Svay"s brothels.There are pretty girls waitting for you guys. These places good during the day.
      Hey Sovanmee,

      I tried to send a private message to you. It did not go through. Turn on your private messaging. Anyway, I would like to know more about Kien Svay. Also what do you know about Kampot.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Traveler_Seas
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      Originally Posted by Sovanmee
      As for L Imprevu it is 7km past the Monivong bridge on route 1 the highway to Vietnam. There is nothing around it but a few other swimming type resorts and beer gardens. In total it is about 11km out of town on a really bad and busy road so it takes quite a long time to get there.
      I think.You did not know this site for sure. There were couple of good places around. As like flooting restaurants+LADIES and Kien Svay"s brothels.There are pretty girls waitting for you guys. These places good during the day.
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply
    • Shadow6491
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      A recent add for Pontoon.

      Cambodia's First and Only Gay Club Night. Every Thursday at Pontoon (Floating Night Club on the Tonle Sap River) Sisowath Quay, The Riverside , Opposite Street 108, The Night Market.
      Come and join in the fun!! Don't be shy, if you are a man and you are looking for a handsome sexy man or boy then come and meet the romantic friendly sexy guys and Dance! Dance! Dance!
      Western Style Club Nite with International DJs (DJ Rob, Anita Bong-hit and Frida Blackman) spinning Upbeat Sensual House.
      New Live shows performed weekly by the best Drag Queens Phnom Penh has to offer Gege, JoJo and Say Say. With occasional Male Erotic dancers raising the temperature to melting point.
      Cruisy, Friendly and busy. Get there early.
      Lesbians especially welcome......
      Doors 9pm until late. Outrageous Live show 11pm. Khmer crowd generally leaves for bed around midnight (it's a work day) which leaves the floor to the Western crowd. So if its a sexy Asian man or a you're after, or a Lesbian Khmer hottie, best get there early.
      Permanant Weekly Drink Promos: Asahi Beer $1.25, Vodka+Mixer $1.25, Gin+Mixer $1.25[ /color]
      Posted 5 years ago | #Reply

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