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  1. Freezone
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    .

    I assume a "moto" is a motorcyle with no side attachment, and a "Tuk-Tuk" has an attachment for seating.
    Correct.

    Moto= motocycle taxi where you sit behind the driver. Never any need to flag one down as one will hound you every 2 minutes.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  2. Hatari
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    Anyone here know if there are ST hotels such as the ones in Bangkok around Soi Cowboy?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  3. Hatari
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    Also, are there any recommended 'massage' parlors? How much are typical prices?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  4. Bule2004
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    Sokun's Place: Salon and Massage

    Originally Posted by Hatari
    Also, are there any recommended 'massage' parlors? How much are typical prices?
    I have tried several massage parlours in Phnom Penh, but by far the best one is upstairs at a salon named Sokun's Place, near the night market on riverside. Sokun is the name of the owner, and his gf (named Srey) manages the place, and chooses all the girls.

    The salon is fabulous and has an attractive staff of young women (most in early 20s) for haircuts, shaves, ear cleaning, shampoo, etc. If you go into the private room on the first floor, they will take care of you very well, and you can then ask who is available to give you a massage.

    Once you select one, you head upstairs for an ostensibly normal massage, but the girls are all keyed in to us expatriates and will take the initiative to accidentally arouse you. No FS, only a happy ending (with exposed breasts, which you can fondle) , but oh what a happy ending!

    The massage, I think, is about $8 and the girls expect a $10 tip. The salon prices are very reasonable, and I tip each of the girls who provided salon services $1 each.

    Great place, and highly recommended!
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  5. Henryv
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    Just a hand job?

    Originally Posted by Bule2004
    I have tried several massage parlours in Phnom Penh, but by far the best one is upstairs at a salon named Sokun's Place, near the night market on riverside. Sokun is the name of the owner, and his gf (named Srey) manages the place, and chooses all the girls.

    The salon is fabulous and has an attractive staff of young women (most in early 20s) for haircuts, shaves, ear cleaning, shampoo, etc. If you go into the private room on the first floor, they will take care of you very well, and you can then ask who is available to give you a massage.

    Once you select one, you head upstairs for an ostensibly normal massage, but the girls are all keyed in to us expatriates and will take the initiative to accidentally arouse you. No FS, only a happy ending (with exposed breasts, which you can fondle) , but oh what a happy ending!

    The massage, I think, is about $8 and the girls expect a $10 tip. The salon prices are very reasonable, and I tip each of the girls who provided salon services $1 each.

    Great place, and highly recommended!
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  6. Betong
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    Originally Posted by Hatari
    Anyone here know if there are ST hotels such as the ones in Bangkok around Soi Cowboy?
    Many places marked "guesthouse" offer short-time rates. The girls at Cyrcee will be happy to show you a few.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  7. Bule2004
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    Yes HJ Only

    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Just a hand job?
    Yes, only HJs are on the menu.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  8. Henryv
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    Wow, I thought that sort of thing only went on in Chinese massage parlours here in the US.

    I hope PP has more to offer than that.

    Originally Posted by Bule2004
    Yes, only HJs are on the menu.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  9. Henryv
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    Does anyone know of a good massage parlour, fishbowl type place, where one can get "full service?"

    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Wow, I thought that sort of thing only went on in Chinese massage parlours here in the US.

    I hope PP has more to offer than that.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  10. Leftfield1965
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Does anyone know of a good massage parlour, fishbowl type place, where one can get "full service?"
    Henryv,

    Can I suggest you try to read back a few pages. The info you are after has already been posted on here, yet you keep asking the same inane questions over and over again. Is this a case of extreme lazyness, stupidity or are you just trolling?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  11. Henryv
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    'Can I suggest you try to read back a few pages. The info you are after has already been posted on here, yet you keep asking the same inane questions over and over again. Is this a case of extreme lazyness, stupidity or are you just trolling? [/QUOTE]'

    Wow, someone needs an anger management session.

    If one believes the purpose of this board is to exchange experiences, translated into information (as one perceives that experience / information) then I stand by my inquires.

    As for extreme lazyness (Sic) , you may want to take the time to spell correctly.

    Originally Posted by Leftfield1965
    Henryv,

    Can I suggest you try to read back a few pages. The info you are after has already been posted on here, yet you keep asking the same inane questions over and over again. Is this a case of extreme lazyness, stupidity or are you just trolling?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  12. Henryv
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    Have you tried asking Leftfield1965, it appears he has a wealth of information to share.

    Originally Posted by Hatari
    Hi, I'm new to this boards. Can anyone recommend some guest-friendly hotels and their prices? So I just bring the girl back, and they don't say anything?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  13. Leftfield1965
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    'Can I suggest you try to read back a few pages. The info you are after has already been posted on here, yet you keep asking the same inane questions over and over again. Is this a case of extreme lazyness, stupidity or are you just trolling?
    '

    Wow, someone needs an anger management session.

    If one believes the purpose of this board is to exchange experiences, translated into information (as one perceives that experience / information) then I stand by my inquires.

    As for extreme lazyness (Sic) , you may want to take the time to spell correctly. [/QUOTE]Anger management session? Nah, just kind of fed up with your dumb questions.

    Is it safe to walk from Flamingos to the Walkabout / Heart?

    Ever heard of Google maps? If you have you'd know that they're just around the corner from each other. You think you're going to get mugged during your 2 minute walk?

    Can anyone recommend a massage / fishbowl place?

    Myself and another guy recommended Paris Hotel / Sakura hotel to you just a few posts down. What happened? Forgot? Old age setting in?

    What's the difference between a tuktuk and a motocy?

    I thought you were an old hand in SE Asia yet you have to ask a question like this?

    What are the negatives about Flamingos?

    I told you what I thought about the place, as did another poster, yet you had to ask the question again.

    I could go on but I can't be bothered.

    As for your spelling jibe, is that all you can come up with?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  14. Leftfield1965
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Have you tried asking Leftfield1965, it appears he has a wealth of information to share.
    Sucking up to other boardmembers is the way to go Henry.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  15. Henryv
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    Thank you.

    Wow, evidently you are not some tired old drunk (got two pm's regarding your initial rant).

    Thank you for the mp info. Will check them out.

    Originally Posted by Leftfield1965
    '

    Wow, someone needs an anger management session.

    If one believes the purpose of this board is to exchange experiences, translated into information (as one perceives that experience / information) then I stand by my inquires.

    As for extreme lazyness (Sic) , you may want to take the time to spell correctly.
    Anger management session? Nah, just kind of fed up with your dumb questions.

    Is it safe to walk from Flamingos to the Walkabout / Heart?

    Ever heard of Google maps? If you have you'd know that they're just around the corner from each other. You think you're going to get mugged during your 2 minute walk?

    Can anyone recommend a massage / fishbowl place?

    Myself and another guy recommended Paris Hotel / Sakura hotel to you just a few posts down. What happened? Forgot? Old age setting in?

    What's the difference between a tuktuk and a motocy?

    I thought you were an old hand in SE Asia yet you have to ask a question like this?

    What are the negatives about Flamingos?

    I told you what I thought about the place, as did another poster, yet you had to ask the question again.

    I could go on but I can't be bothered.

    As for your spelling jibe, is that all you can come up with? [/QUOTE]
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  16. Phil_Istine
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    Crikey!

    Only a dollar to go from 51 to sharkeys or martinis-how tight are some of you guys?

    Fair go!

    Fuel is expensive as is the cost of living in Cambodia.

    Much as I dislike most tuk tuks I believe in helping them out with at least two bucks or more.

    The money should be shared around not just with working girls and bar owners.

    Looking after transport providers helps ensure ones own safety as well.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  17. Evianist
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    Originally Posted by Phil Istine
    Crikey!

    Only a dollar to go from 51 to sharkeys or martinis-how tight are some of you guys?

    Fair go!

    Fuel is expensive as is the cost of living in Cambodia.

    Much as I dislike most tuk tuks I believe in helping them out with at least two bucks or more.

    The money should be shared around not just with working girls and bar owners.

    Looking after transport providers helps ensure ones own safety as well.
    I'll help them out when they stop harassing me every 5 seconds when I'm just walking down the street.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  18. AlLostInSpace13
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    Pontoon Bar on Street 51?

    Hey fellow mongers,

    Has anyone been to the new Pontoon bar? Is it just a meeting place for expats? Or is there some action to be had?

    Spaceman
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  19. Trimix
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    Good Massage in PP

    Any advice for a massage saloon with young girls offering some extras?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  20. Mosquito2002
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    Tipping and cost of tuk tuk / motorbikes

    2 years ago it was a 1. 00 for motorbikes in and around town, including Martinis from the Walk-About.

    Around 1. 50 for a tuk tuk, but you could get it for a dollar.

    It's not so much the price as the principle, I don't like feeling like a chump for tipping or paying to much. Honestly majority of the drivers are pests, and should just be happy to have our business.

    If I tip to much, then I start thinking about that driver talking to his friends over a beer or two of how this stupid farang gave him a $$$ tip. That starts all of them asking or expecting larger tips, thus the down hill slide.

    I can handle being seen as a fair and nice guy for giving a decent tip, but the worst case (for me) is paying to much and being seen as a chump. Which again (my opinion) is what the driver will think of you. AKA sucked another one!

    Pay the 1. 00 or 1. 50 for a straight forward ride at a decent hour, and maybe 1. 50 and 2. 00 for rides late at night / raining or off the beaten track side trips. Of course make sure of the fair before hand, if not happy there's always another driver 5 feet away.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  21. Henryv
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    Just arrived in PP and my limited experience with the moto drivers is this: I have gone to Martinis's from 51, and back, Russian market, casino, Street 104. Etc, and it appears pretty simple. I offer them $1 (whis seems fair) , if they refuse (none eventually did) , I simply walk to the next one an offer the same. Their is no unity among these guys, this simple manuver does the trick. Indeed, I was coming out of the Heart of D last night and a fist fight nearly broke out between two drivers over a fare.

    Also, there was an accident and one moto took off. The police showed up and it was like a Max Sennet slapstick comedy. Every officer going the wrong way. Hilarious.

    I can understand how the drivers can become a nuisance, but its there livelyhood. They, and the Cambodian men, appear to be very dissimialar to the Thai men. The Thai men barely tolerate your presence. I talked with a few moto drivers and there were some interesing characters.

    Will give a newbie report on my initial impression in a few day, have not slept much since I have been here.

    Originally Posted by Mosquito2002
    2 years ago it was a 1. 00 for motorbikes in and around town, including Martinis from the Walk-About.

    Around 1. 50 for a tuk tuk, but you could get it for a dollar.

    It's not so much the price as the principle, I don't like feeling like a chump for tipping or paying to much. Honestly majority of the drivers are pests, and should just be happy to have our business.

    If I tip to much, then I start thinking about that driver talking to his friends over a beer or two of how this stupid farang gave him a $$$ tip. That starts all of them asking or expecting larger tips, thus the down hill slide.

    I can handle being seen as a fair and nice guy for giving a decent tip, but the worst case (for me) is paying to much and being seen as a chump. Which again (my opinion) is what the driver will think of you. AKA sucked another one!

    Pay the 1. 00 or 1. 50 for a straight forward ride at a decent hour, and maybe 1. 50 and 2. 00 for rides late at night / raining or off the beaten track side trips. Of course make sure of the fair before hand, if not happy there's always another driver 5 feet away.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  22. Henryv
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    Flamingo Hotel

    Newbie observation:

    Quite frankly, I like it. Basic room (Standard $25) which is clean, people are very friendly, free breakfast (albeit not much) and, most of all, location. It seems "Heart of Darkness" is the last stop for many barhoppers (seen Martini's almost emply out Sunday night at 1 am with most going to HD).

    I am sure if I scowered the net I could find something better but, as one individual advised when I was asking for info, a very good place for a newbie to stay.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  23. Johnny42
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    Sophie's?

    Dear Mongerers,

    I'm in Phnom Penh for the next few weeks on an infrastructure project and I was wondering if the legendary Sophie's is still there? Some sources says its closed, and since I don't know the address, any info would be greatly appreciated.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  24. Shadow6491
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    Originally Posted by Johnny42
    Dear Mongerers,

    I'm in Phnom Penh for the next few weeks on an infrastructure project and I was wondering if the legendary Sophie's is still there? Some sources says its closed, and since I don't know the address, any info would be greatly appreciated.
    You are about 3 and a half years to late.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  25. Henryv
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    Newbie Observations

    General observations from a newbie:

    Walkabout Hotel: I am remined of the bar scene in the original Star Wars movie. What a cast of characiers (present company included). About 70% of the women are emaciated crack working girls. However, the truth be told, I am amazed at the gems that would stroll in from time to time. The decor is also second to none. For example, I thougt the bar stools were part of some avante garde look. Then I noticed some were not split down the middle. Is a good place to meet expats and get information. Interesting, had breakfast there one morning and they made me pay ahead of time. Won't eat there again. Besides, too many good Asia resteraunts near.

    Bars on 104 and 136. Acutally not bad. Can find an occasional gem. My only bad experience was in "69" Bar. Went there the first night, presented myself as a gentleman, tipped appropriately. Gals were, all in all friendly. However, last night I met one of the rudest bartenders (gal) in my life. Asked her to put a twist of lime in my rum / coke and she acted as if I asked for her first born. She literally threw a bag of limes on the bar and said: "ge it yourself." Told her what she could do with the drink and walked out. On the way out two of the girls apologiized or her and said: "she always like that, me don't know why?" Did not put much a damper on the evening, just found another bar.

    Sharkys: Appears to be more of a young mans game here. An older guy like me is usually approached by a member of the second string.

    Martinis: The ultimate meat market. Met one in here with huge tits my first night. Great gal. Problem, as sometimes occurs, she was there a few nights later, however, I was in the mood for something different. Difficult, and somewhat uncomfortable time ditching her.

    Heart of Darkness: Again, somewhat more of a younger mans game, but not as profoundly so as Sharkys.

    Will be visiting a few of the high end places the next few nights.

    Finally,"tuk-tuks" here are different than in the Philippines. Here they are almost stagecoach like, with the carriage seperate from the driver. Just put that in here in case my critic is reading this.

    Also apologiize for any misspelling, this keyboard at the hotel computer is driving me nuts.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  26. TrickyTrevor
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    Nice work Henry

    Nice report Henry. I'll be in PP next month. Your report has wetted my already wetted apatite. Haven't been there for a year and it'll be my third visit.

    Last time I was there I enjoyed Candy Bar on 136 and like the eateries along the river there too. What's Candy like these days? Same as?

    Okay. How does this sound for my first day plan. I arrive from Europe at 9 am in PP. Obviously I'll be as toey as anything, somewhat travel weary and looking for immediate gratification. So by the time I clear customs and get a taxi downtown it'll only be about 10. 30 am. Still early. My thoughts are that I should go straight to Candy Bar and book a room there. I know the pickings will probably be a bit rank at that hour but whatever. So I get my rocks off with who's ever available then catch up on some sleep. I wake up again. Whenever and you guessed it, I just go down and see what's available. Same thing. Wake up again.

    Maybe next night I book into a hotel so I can expand my horizons.

    For some nights, I don't mind spending a bit more. River 108 looks good Agoda. Anyone have any reports on it. I emailed reservations who confirmed I can bring guests back to the room. Nice.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  27. Adhome01
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    General observations from a newbie:
    Thanks for the report. Please, keep them coming.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  28. AlLostInSpace13
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    General observations from a newbie:

    Walkabout Hotel: had breakfast there one morning and they made me pay ahead of time. Won't eat there again.
    Not just breakfast, at WA the food deal is: pay first, food after. Their food isn't the best, but it's convenient and 7/24.

    Try the Saint Tropez lounge, which is a stone's throw from WA. Also I heard that the Pontoon bar is opened across from Heart of Darkness. Also Riverhouse bar / lounge / disco never disappoints.

    Pick up a copy of the Nightlife guide at the Flamingos frontdesk for the most up-to-date list of places to visit.

    There's a waitress at Flamingos that I really dig. I guess you already know which one. .

    Spaceman.

    Ps. I envey you.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  29. Phil_Istine
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    I am an old hand now in PP and have been out and about lately.

    Walkabou is great value, the pay first policy makes sense.

    If one paid first in the hostess bars then a lot of money would be saved.

    Candy bar still pads the bills, beware.

    Walkabou is the best value in town, still.

    Met some lovely keen young girls there recently.

    I speak pretty good khmer and I talk to the girls openly.

    Met a pair in the WA the other morning, one Ok the other very nice.

    The Ok one said I love to suck cock and eat pussy with my friend. 15 bucks each.

    Went back to find them later, no have.

    Another lovely girl with huge tits there as well.

    Bars generally disappointing but I have high expectations, I only like beautiful tall ones.

    The cyrcee was shocking the other night, ten girls and not one approached me.

    They werent flash anyway.

    Old banana bar around the corner was better.

    Went for a massage at a crappy khmer place off mao tse tung, lovely young girl, terrible room, not bad for $20 bucks though.

    Better was at a flash massage place on 278 just before elsewhere, paid for the top of the line body scrub.

    Little na with big tits started playing with the balls and without input from me did the twenty minute balls massage and hand job-excellent.

    And she was happy with a twenty dollar tip.

    I'm bored with the bar girls.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  30. Henryv
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    Candy is like most, hit or miss. But for the most part I do like it a little more because they seem to have more pickable gals. It is also larger than some of the other places so there is a larger selection of gals. Place is big enough so if a gal comes up that you do not like it is easier to extricate yourself (that is not self abuse).

    Saw a stunning ladyboy in there, not into, but he / she / it was a looker,

    Originally Posted by TrickyTrevor
    Nice report Henry. I'll be in PP next month. Your report has wetted my already wetted apatite. Haven't been there for a year and it'll be my third visit.

    Last time I was there I enjoyed Candy Bar on 136 and like the eateries along the river there too. What's Candy like these days? Same as?

    Okay. How does this sound for my first day plan. I arrive from Europe at 9 am in PP. Obviously I'll be as toey as anything, somewhat travel weary and looking for immediate gratification. So by the time I clear customs and get a taxi downtown it'll only be about 10. 30 am. Still early. My thoughts are that I should go straight to Candy Bar and book a room there. I know the pickings will probably be a bit rank at that hour but whatever. So I get my rocks off with who's ever available then catch up on some sleep. I wake up again. Whenever and you guessed it, I just go down and see what's available. Same thing. Wake up again.

    Maybe next night I book into a hotel so I can expand my horizons.

    For some nights, I don't mind spending a bit more. River 108 looks good Agoda. Anyone have any reports on it. I emailed reservations who confirmed I can bring guests back to the room. Nice.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply

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