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  1. Sammon
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    I went to a girl's Apt while ago. I met her at HOD. It was a one bedroom only. It was on a narrow lane of the main road with small houses on either side. I do not know where the shower or the toilet was. She introduced me to her neighbours who were really friendly.

    She said she paid $50 / month as rent. She did have a good bed.

    This girl was very pretty and she stayed with me for 4 days. I paid her a total of $120 with a some clothes totalling $30. Ofcourse I did take care of all the dinners and even took her to Naga casino. Otherwise she would go and get me cheap home cooked meals for lunch.

    She told me she makes almost $500 a month but needs to send part of the money to her home. Rest of the money she saves for a rainy day. She said she can afford a better Apt. But was content living in a one room apt with lots of friendly people around. In her line of business famine will hit soon and fast unless she finds a sponsor. She told me she had a sponsor before.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  2. GreenBud
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    Originally Posted by Bartchamdo
    What I love is to hear the lady's views of working the trade. A few wonderful insights I've gleaned in the last few months:

    She disliked Walkabout?"Why?" Because all the customers were old men who smoked ganja.
    I also like to talk to the girls to learn about their life.

    You cannot smoke ganja at the Walkabout, at least on the first floor; I've tried. LOL! Maybe you can smoke on the balconey on the second floor.

    You cannot smoke at the trendy Cambodian places such as Lounge and Sparks.

    You can smoke on the balconey at Sharkeys.

    All the staff at Martini will say you cannot smoke ganja. But I've seen people smoke (not often though). The poor working staff there won't want to mess with you.

    You can smoke at LeCryee.

    At the hostess bars, some will say yes, some will say please smoke outside.

    Originally Posted by Bartchamdo
    For those of you just passing through town briefly. I suggest you don't discuss money too much. I rarely talk about money ahead of time, and usually just hand them $15 afterwards without comment. I've never had a lady act unhappy with this. Once or twice they seemed a little too eager, as if I'd given them too much. I guess $10 is pretty common for short time with some punters.
    For the tourist, I wouldn't recommend not discussing price. I think it's better to have a little drama at the beginning than a lot of drama at the end.

    I've heard some stories about the girl not being happy about the standard rate that the guy gave in the morning. Some girls will always want more.

    That being said, it's no "problem" if you do that. The girl will have no recourse, even if you stiff her. This is not the Philippines or Thailand; she cannot call the cops. First of all, the cops won't care; she has to pay the cops to come over; the working girls in Cambodia are treated like shit (it's a shame since the country's economy has expanded on the "backs" of these working girls). Also I wouldn't fear her friends or pimp (of course there could be an exception, but unlikely).

    The prices for girls went up when the price of petro went up several years ago. At Martini, the cute girls will ask for at least $20 short time (I pay the full rack rate). How hard is it to get the cute ones (the top 5 at Martini's) to agree to $15? Fairly certain you cannot get the cute ones to agree to $10. You probably can get the older or marginal ones to agree to $10.

    Walkabout should have cheaper pricing pressures than Martinis. But then the quality at Martinis is better than Walkabout.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  3. Wendella
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    Originally Posted by Evianist
    I One girl told me she'd be scared to live in a big apartment alone because of ghosts.
    Me too. That's why whenever I'm in Phnom Penh I go out and try to find a girl to bring back to my hotel room. Ghosts.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  4. Titanio
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    Originally Posted by Bartchamdo
    I suggest you don't discuss money too much. I rarely talk about money ahead of time, and usually just hand them $15 afterwards without comment. I've never had a lady act unhappy with this. Once or twice they seemed a little too eager, as if I'd given them too much. I guess $10 is pretty common for short time with some punters.
    Exactly!

    I never discuss any money on beforehand. And when they act the trick of leaving their clothes in the bathroom after 1st shower, you already know it will just be an ST. No problem, then I just pay 10$ as my excuse is always hee, I would have paid you 30$ for a whole night with at least 3 pops. So one pop is 10$. They will be confused. Leaving early or no BBBJ are also no bonus points. OK, I add a dollar for motobike taxi. But that is all. And in the end, if these girls get an average of 15$ every other day, that is a lot of riels at the end of the month. Therefore I am not so keen to visit WB or Martini's with all the other tourists and FL's. I always take a hotel in 136 street and have fun in 104 and 108. Or stay in 104 and have fun in 136.

    And with mototaxi's exactly the same. You can drive half the city for 2000 riels. Just have them prepared in your pocket and put it in his hand at destination. Confusion all over as they expected a dollar, just walk away but they all will take it. And this is even no problem at all for a firsttime visitor. Know what the habits are, and it saves you a lot of money.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  5. GreenBud
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    Originally Posted by Titanio
    And with mototaxi's exactly the same. You can drive half the city for 2000 riels. Just have them prepared in your pocket and put it in his hand at destination. Confusion all over as they expected a dollar, just walk away but they all will take it. And this is even no problem at all for a firsttime visitor. Know what the habits are, and it saves you a lot of money.
    "Confusion all over" - A funny picture.

    I wouldn't like the bitching that would occur every single time.

    A lot of the moto-dopes from the tourist area or your hotel will refuse to take you if you only offer the local price; some of them wait a long time to gouge the tourist.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  6. Hippie
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    As I have tended to do lately, here are a few comments on various topics:

    I no longer am recommending Amari hotel on St. 136 to people. I know one person who had a large amount of money stolen out of a locked drawer, presumably by the housekeeper. I had another friend check out after 2 days due to construction noise.

    Yes, Cambodian girls will sometimes call the cops on you if they are pissed off enough at being what they consider seriously underpaid. It does not happen often, but it does happen. Contrary to popular opinion, however, they won't always take the girl's side. If they do, the cops will then split whatever extra money they get out of the customer with the girl.

    The number of hostess bar girls who are demanding silly money is steadily increasing. I still pay no more than $15 for ST and $25 for LT, but there are girls now who absolutely won't go for less than $40-$50. Strangely, they are not always the hottest girls, and there are still plenty of really hot ones who will go for the same prices as before. One girl even quoted a friend of mine $100. She quickly came down from that figure, but he just blew her off immediately out of general principle. We even made a point of ridiculing her a bit to her face and in front of the other girls-something I would normally never do, but felt the point needed to be made. Freelancers still seem to be OK with $10-$15 ST, $20-$25 LT.

    Martini and Walkabout seem to have higher percentages of Khmer chicks these days, or maybe just fewer Vietnamese.

    Pontoon is a very nice bar, from a design standpoint. A bar by this name has been around for years, but it use to be on a floating barge anchored to the riverside around the night market. It has always has a string of freelancers and semi-pros (hookers who are playing the long game) that tended to arrive around 11-12, and the new bar is no different. The working girls arrived in the last half hour before they start charging a cover-which was midnight last Friday. I saw a several hostess bar girls that I knew, and some freelancers who I recognized from Riverhouse. I did not see any of the regular Heart girls. A lot of the customers were middle and up-class Khmers, however, especially when I first arrived around 10PM, so be careful and make sure the girl is really available before you start hitting on her.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  7. D_Cups
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    Hi GB, nice to see you are still making the rounds. Have you or any other Cambodian mongers seen any busty (slim and stacked) Khmers or Viets in PP? Are there any bars there that feature big boobs? I don't care if they are bolt-ons or not. I'll be looking for a sweetie to take to Angor what and do a lot of boom booming.

    Originally Posted by GreenBud
    I also like to talk to the girls to learn about their life.

    You cannot smoke ganja at the Walkabout, at least on the first floor; I've tried. LOL! Maybe you can smoke on the balconey on the second floor.

    You cannot smoke at the trendy Cambodian places such as Lounge and Sparks.

    You can smoke on the balconey at Sharkeys.

    All the staff at Martini will say you cannot smoke ganja. But I've seen people smoke (not often though). The poor working staff there won't want to mess with you.

    You can smoke at LeCryee.

    At the hostess bars, some will say yes, some will say please smoke outside.

    For the tourist, I wouldn't recommend not discussing price. I think it's better to have a little drama at the beginning than a lot of drama at the end.

    I've heard some stories about the girl not being happy about the standard rate that the guy gave in the morning. Some girls will always want more.

    That being said, it's no "problem" if you do that. The girl will have no recourse, even if you stiff her. This is not the Philippines or Thailand; she cannot call the cops. First of all, the cops won't care; she has to pay the cops to come over; the working girls in Cambodia are treated like shit (it's a shame since the country's economy has expanded on the "backs" of these working girls). Also I wouldn't fear her friends or pimp (of course there could be an exception, but unlikely).

    The prices for girls went up when the price of petro went up several years ago. At Martini, the cute girls will ask for at least $20 short time (I pay the full rack rate). How hard is it to get the cute ones (the top 5 at Martini's) to agree to $15? Fairly certain you cannot get the cute ones to agree to $10. You probably can get the older or marginal ones to agree to $10.

    Walkabout should have cheaper pricing pressures than Martinis. But then the quality at Martinis is better than Walkabout.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  8. Titanio
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    Originally Posted by GreenBud
    "Confusion all over". A funny picture.

    I wouldn't like the bitching that would occur every single time.

    A lot of the moto-dopes from the tourist area or your hotel will refuse to take you if you only offer the local price; some of them wait a long time to gouge the tourist.
    Yes you are right. I never take a moto-dop in front of my hotel duting daytime. Just walk up the street and you will always find loads of moto-dopes. Those waiting in front of your hotel, normally waiting there all day and every day, so they are safe for an arrangement at night. During the day they are way too expensive. Well, to Cambodian standards.

    And to make it all clear, during daytime I never negociate a price on beforehand, just ask them where I want to go. I don't have a map or so, I know my way around or just ask if he knows a landmark. If not take the next one.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  9. GreenBud
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    Originally Posted by D Cups
    Hi GB, nice to see you are still making the rounds. Have you or any other Cambodian mongers seen any busty (slim and stacked) Khmers or Viets in PP? Are there any bars there that feature big boobs? I don't care if they are bolt-ons or not. I'll be looking for a sweetie to take to Angor what and do a lot of boom booming.
    That's a pretty tough combo - slim and stacked. Usually, the girls with the large breasts is going to be somewhat fat. Of course there are exceptions.

    Generally, Asians don't have large breasts; you probably should stick with Tijuana for large tits.

    Generally on the average, Khmers will have larger breasts than the Viets, IMO.

    I'm not really a breast man; I haven't been keeping track of large breasted girls. The next time I'm there (in couple of weeks) , I'll keep my eyes (hands) open for them.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  10. Asianpussylover
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    K11

    K11 is still open for business. But not to barangs. The only whites you'll see there are NGOs still creaming their cotton panties at the thought or catching a pedo. They are completely oblivious of the K11 sprouting in the countryside. [/QUOTE]

    Ok. Did you get laid? The reports of pussy being available are still trickling in. Though the place is nothing like what is was years ago when the Home Away From Home Cafe was there.

    I'm defintetly going a hunting ))
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  11. Asianpussylover
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    Bad boys play at night

    I even went to notorious KM11 but there was nothing there. Had a real hard time finding a tout to even take me there.

    Hint! Wink.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  12. D_Cups
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    Thanks, GB, I appreciate any intel. I know busty Asians are not real common but I have a fetish for them.

    Originally Posted by GreenBud
    That's a pretty tough combo. Slim and stacked. Usually, the girls with the large breasts is going to be somewhat fat. Of course there are exceptions.

    Generally, Asians don't have large breasts; you probably should stick with Tijuana for large tits.

    Generally on the average, Khmers will have larger breasts than the Viets, IMO.

    I'm not really a breast man; I haven't been keeping track of large breasted girls. The next time I'm there (in couple of weeks) , I'll keep my eyes (hands) open for them.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  13. Asianpussylover
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    Off the roads

    Originally Posted by Sandbag102
    Does anyone have any recommendations of provinces to visit off the beaten track where it may still be possible to get some good boom boom / yum yum? Pp siem reap and sihanok are not what they used to be! I may be heading back to cambo for a week or so in the next couple of months and would love a little adventure!
    Buy a bus ticket to Sisophon. The No Gooders have not been able to crack this place. Has any one had some Khmer Rouge pussy in Pailin?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  14. Henryv
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    Total Newbie

    Gentlemen:

    I am seriously considering my first visit to Camboida. Understanding the fact I must make my own way and do research, could you helf me with some general info:

    What is this "crackdown" I read about?

    Can someone recommned a good hotel in Phnom Penh with access to general mongering area. I have been told the walkabout is a good place.

    It appears the going rate for short time is around $15.

    Best overall mongering spots for a newbie.

    All info greatly appreciated.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  15. Polyorchid
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Can someone recommned a good hotel in Phnom Penh with access to general mongering area. I have been told the walkabout is a good place.
    I highly recommend Na Na Hotel & Café Restaurant.

    Nº.1B2B, Dekcho Damdin (St. 154)

    12210 Phnom Penh.

    Tel 023 6926 987.

    HP 017 373 872.

    It's on the corner of 154 and Pasteur, a 5-minute walk from Walkabout, only $20, including breakfast and very clean.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  16. Dinghy
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    Originally Posted by Asianpussylover
    Buy a bus ticket to Sisophon. The No Gooders have not been able to crack this place. Has any one had some Khmer Rouge pussy in Pailin?
    You need to have bug repellent in Pailin. Drug resistant malaria is endemic there
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  17. Henryv
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    Is it a safe walk?

    Originally Posted by Polyorchid
    I highly recommend Na Na Hotel & Café Restaurant.

    Nº.1B2B, Dekcho Damdin (St. 154)

    12210 Phnom Penh.

    Tel 023 6926 987.

    HP 017 373 872.

    It's on the corner of 154 and Pasteur, a 5-minute walk from Walkabout, only $20, including breakfast and very clean.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  18. Shadow6491
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    Originally Posted by Dinghy
    You need to have bug repellent in Pailin. Drug resistant malaria is endemic there
    The chicken farm in Palin was closed down about a year and a half ago.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  19. Polyorchid
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Is it a safe walk?
    Absolutely. PP seemed very safe to me.

    I was raised around Chicago, and I've never been anywhere in Asia, or anywhere else in the world, where I felt anywhere near as in danger as I did there. If the thugs don't get you, the coppers will.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  20. Asianpussylover
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    Snookyville Chicken Farm Raid

    Originally Posted by Shadow6491
    The chicken farm in Palin was closed down about a year and a half ago.
    From the sihanoukvillegazette. Com:

    Police Raid on Chicken Farm.

    Last Week end (30th January) the Military Police conducted a raid on a Brothel in a place known locally as "The Chicken Farm." After weeks of surveillance the raid caught a Vietnamese man selling drugs. The man was arrested and charged with Drug Offences for which he received 7 years. The mama san w2as charged with keeping a brothel and she duly paid a fine while the working girls were sent to PP for 'Re-education. A Canadian national was released without charges as the working girl was over the age of consent.

    Damn! What's going on with the chicken farms? There goes my $5 shags. Now I will have to shop hard elsewhere.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  21. GreenBud
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    Originally Posted by Hippie
    Yes, Cambodian girls will sometimes call the cops on you if they are pissed off enough at being what they consider seriously underpaid. It does not happen often, but it does happen. Contrary to popular opinion, however, they won't always take the girl's side. If they do, the cops will then split whatever extra money they get out of the customer with the girl.
    Well ya I guess technically the girl can call the cops. The corrupt cop won't care who he takes money from, whether it be from a working girl, a barang, or a local.

    Never heard of that, but then no scumbag would admit that his girl called the cops because he stiffed her. I observed 2 incidents.

    Funny story: I was at Martinis a few years ago. This girl was a few feet away from this guy. She was constantly yapping at him, saying things like "you no pay me","why you no pay me". The guy just calmly drank his beer. She did that the whole time I was there. I guess that's the "common" recourse the working girl has.

    When the locals have a dispute, such as a traffic accident, no one wants to call the cops. They're kind of like lawyers, they're the only ones that win.

    Originally Posted by Hippie
    I no longer am recommending Amari hotel on St. 136 to people. I know one person who had a large amount of money stolen out of a locked drawer, presumably by the housekeeper.
    That guy seems foolish for having a large amount of money in a drawer. If it had a lock, it was one of those flimsy ones. If he jerry rigged it with his own cheap lock, those can be picked.

    That's one reason why I don't stay at the Amari. They don't have any in-room safes (plus no wi-fi in the room). Why didn't he use the individual safes in the lobby. Those also are very flimsy; it's wooden with cheap locks. But the owner assured me that it was completely safe because the lobby is taped 24 hours a day by CCTV.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  22. Hippie
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    In-room safes are only marginally safer than the other two alternatives mentioned, when the threat is from a hotel staff member. Every hotel has at least one person who knows the master combination and / or has a master key to every safe. These are essential when customers forget their combinations. At the very least the manager on each shift will have it, and with the average Cambodian's laziness and inability to keep secrets, usually several other people do, as well. (I'm really not bashing Cambodia unfairly when I say that, as anyone who has lived and worked here will attest.) Once when staying at a very highly-regarded hotel in Angeles City, I returned to my room at midday to move to a better room that I was switching to that day. I walked into my room to find the security guard and new tenant staring at my opened safe, which contained $3000 in addition to my passport and camera and some prescription medicine. I went ballistic when the receptionist calmly informed me that since the other guest had arrived early, the staff had moved all my belongings for me and she had instructed the security guard to open the safe.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  23. Henryv
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    Any comments on this previous post?

    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Gentlemen:

    I am seriously considering my first visit to Camboida. Understanding the fact I must make my own way and do research, could you helf me with some general info:

    What is this "crackdown" I read about?

    Can someone recommned a good hotel in Phnom Penh with access to general mongering area. I have been told the walkabout is a good place.

    It appears the going rate for short time is around $15.

    Best overall mongering spots for a newbie.

    All info greatly appreciated.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  24. Shadow6491
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    Originally Posted by GreenBud
    Well ya I guess technically the girl can call the cops. The corrupt cop won't care who he takes money from, whether it be from a working girl, a barang, or a local.

    Never heard of that, but then no scumbag would admit that his girl called the cops because he stiffed her. I observed 2 incidents.

    Funny story: I was at Martinis a few years ago. This girl was a few feet away from this guy. She was constantly yapping at him, saying things like "you no pay me","why you no pay me". The guy just calmly drank his beer. She did that the whole time I was there. I guess that's the "common" recourse the working girl has.

    When the locals have a dispute, such as a traffic accident, no one wants to call the cops. They're kind of like lawyers, they're the only ones that win.

    That guy seems foolish for having a large amount of money in a drawer. If it had a lock, it was one of those flimsy ones. If he jerry rigged it with his own cheap lock, those can be picked.

    That's one reason why I don't stay at the Amari. They don't have any in-room safes (plus no wi-fi in the room). Why didn't he use the individual safes in the lobby. Those also are very flimsy; it's wooden with cheap locks. But the owner assured me that it was completely safe because the lobby is taped 24 hours a day by CCTV.
    Actually this exact scenario with a girl wanting more than she got and her calling the cops has happened and even been reported in the Phnom Phen Post. If I can be bothered I might dig it out and post it for you to have a laugh at.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  25. GreenBud
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    Originally Posted by Hippie
    and with the average Cambodian's laziness

    (I'm really not bashing Cambodia unfairly when I say that, as anyone who has lived and worked here will attest.)
    That's somewhat of an understatement, and I don't even live there. LOL!

    I've met a lot of people that like the Khmers, and they say something like, "The Cambodians are a sweet loving people, but". They always use the word "but". LOL!
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  26. Kuranyi
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    Originally Posted by Asianpussylover
    From the sihanoukvillegazette. Com:

    Police Raid on Chicken Farm.

    Last Week end (30th January) the Military Police conducted a raid on a Brothel in a place known locally as "The Chicken Farm." After weeks of surveillance the raid caught a Vietnamese man selling drugs. The man was arrested and charged with Drug Offences for which he received 7 years. The mama san w2as charged with keeping a brothel and she duly paid a fine while the working girls were sent to PP for 'Re-education. A Canadian national was released without charges as the working girl was over the age of consent.

    Damn! What's going on with the chicken farms? There goes my $5 shags. Now I will have to shop hard elsewhere.
    So sad to hear that the chicken farms and 5$ viet cuties are disappearing all over Cambodia.

    Which chicken farm are you speaking of in SHV? The shags on the port or the house in town?

    Did the whole business just went underground for cambos only or did they really made it to destroy it?

    R. I. P. Cambo sex business. (
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  27. Henryv
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    Newbie to PP

    Got a pm telling me the Flamingo was a good Hotel situated close to the action. Any comments?

    Anyone know of a good hotel close to the action that has a pool.

    Also, if I bring an unloced cell phone is the system similar to the Philippines or Thailand, I. E, buy a sim care and time.

    Thank you.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  28. Worltravel
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    Originally Posted by Henryv
    Got a pm telling me the Flamingo was a good Hotel situated close to the action. Any comments?

    Anyone know of a good hotel close to the action that has a pool.

    Also, if I bring an unloced cell phone is the system similar to the Philippines or Thailand, I. E, buy a sim care and time.

    Thank you.
    Flamingo is close to some action but doesent have a pool, nowdays they need a I'd on the girl, not many have one.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  29. Evianist
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    Originally Posted by Worltravel
    Flamingo is close to some action but doesent have a pool, nowdays they need a I'd on the girl, not many have one.
    When I was there in April 2010 they IDed the girl (which she didn't have).

    Stayed there one night two weeks ago and brought 2 girls back and they didn't ID them.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  30. Leftfield1965
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    Hi guys, newbie here.

    I was wondering if there's any boardmembers currently living in or visiting Phnom Penh that could help me out tracking down a girl that I met at the Walkabout last week.

    I meant to get her phone number on my last night in PP but unfortunately fell ill and didn't make it out that night.

    My next visit isn't for another 3 months and given the high turnover rate at the Walkabout it would be a shame if she left the WA before my next trip.

    I'd greatly appreciate any help on this matter either on here or via PM.

    Cheers guys!
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply

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