Yes like this we will be charge 10 times the regular price instead of 4 time if we go by ourself. Avoid the taxi drivers and becak especially in Medan.Originally Posted by Andi Medan
I've been asked to look into a quite expensive (I was told) karaoke over there called M City; does anyone have any news on this place? I also need very attractive women for some corporate entertainment without breaking the bank - anyone have any leads out there? I have no issues going trawling through the malls, however I cannot expect my guests to do so. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
Don't go to m city. This place is quite nice but too expensive.
Also worker are cheater they will put additionnal expenses in your bill.
I have really bad experience there and will never go back again.
Madam are very ugly stupid ***** name bebby who will put too much charges in your bill.
About girls they will charges you 1million rupiah for short terms.
If you need cheap karaoke just go to emerald garden hotel KTV.
You can take room and no need to drink expensive whisky but beer allowed too girl short term charges 300, 000rp.
Originally Posted by Master Diver II
Actually I just kidding. I post very short.
In Medan many place for enjoying it's depend you.
In Jl. Mangkubumi the place name Gemini it's old place but service very nice and cheap it; s only Rp. 250. 000. ,. Include soft drink
Jl. S. Parman Vita Mesage same It's only Rp. 250. 000,.
Jl. Negara the place are known well now because there many saloon that have WP maybe you can try this.
Looking for Medan hotels? Maybe my little recon this morning might help you.
Went to Jalan SM Raja, where all the supposedly main hotels are located. My objective was to find a clean room with WiFi and 250-300K. Forget it! What a disaster! A real busy street with sidewalks with open drainholes. And check explicitly before you book, cause 9 out of 10 said no guests allowed. Except for two hotels with overtly gay receptionists that quipped, no GFs, but BFs, okay. Yeah, right! One said as long as I have a different "wife" every night, okay. Same "wife" for 2 nights, without a marriage license, no!
I'll remain at the Citi-International, thanks. http://citi-hotel.com . The Jl. Palang Merah location. Newish, well run, clean, and with WiFi, provided you ensure that your room is near their routers.
My only gripe with the place is despite being reassured that their free airport shuttle would be there to greet me, it wasn't. What a disaster, to be left to the wiles of the damn touts. I suggest you call hotel reception and double check about that phantom shuttle before boarding your flight.
Oh, and the location is across from Danau Toba International hotel if you must have 4* digs. Very well run. Business attired security in the lobby. They check under cars with mirrors before entry onto their property. I'm told The Tavern, right besides the main building is a hotbed of FLs, but I can't confirm as I haven't had the chance to check that out. But the Danau Toba area has quite a few upscale malls within spitting distance, unlike the SM Raja area.
If anybody would like to team up for mall forays, just PM.
I stayed in Garuda Plaza a few years back. The room was a bit shabby for the price, but locals seemed to like the hotel. I've stayed twice at the Danau Toba which was decent value for money, but it was often fully booked especially weekends. There is a night club on the ground floor, and a couple of venues just across the hotel parking lot. The Danau Toba has a web site.
Originally Posted by Acerboy
Bro,Originally Posted by Acerboy
Hmm..going in April hah..?
Anyway, for my past trips I've stayed at Danau Toba, Novotel & Grand Angkasa. Well, Danau Toba does have a few so-called hot places such as Taverns, Dangdut pub etc but I found the age gap not to my liking
I still prefer to stay at Novotel or Grand Angkasa. It's slightly more pricey than Danau Toba but for Novotel (my usual station), I found that the karaoke (i think on 3rd floor) does have some gems occasionally. Of course, if you're staying at G.A. then there'll be Soccer Bar for hunting purpose. My info, however, was more than a year back so it might not be relevant anymore.
But knowing you & your skill in fishing, Danau Toba may be convenient for your "mall hunting" at the nearby upscale Sun Plaza.
Enjoy your trip!
I stayed at the Grand Angkasa twice and liked the hotel. It's definitely girl-friendly, and even has a decent night club filled with girls, the Soccer Club, located in the basement. I think the price was around 600,000 rupiah, breakfast included.Originally Posted by Acerboy
Shall be visiting my little indo paradise on the above dates. Plan to have a good party with my Uni chick n her frens...ahhhh the life....cant wait.
Anyone down there during that time feel free to mention here n we can meet for beers etc...
Bro,Originally Posted by Acerboy
You might want to check Aseana Best Western or Grand Angkasa - depending on your budget. They have a few new upscale hotels just opened (Aryaduta, Swiss Belhotel and Marriot) but they may be out of your budget. I've stayed at Danau Toba, Best Western, Grand Angkasa, and (the now demolished) Dirga Surya. I never had any trouble bringing girls back to any of these hotels during any of the 25 or so trips to Medan since 1998.
As for mall hunting, I found that the prospects were thinner on the ground in Sun Plaza (even the previously friendly perfume girls weren't as nice). I found there to be better prospects in Thamrin Mall or better still Medan Mall. Keep your eyes open for the various salesgirls bro; knowing your charm, it should be a breeze.
Are you playing at Royal Sumatera? Have fun...
CitiInn Sun Yat Sen is a reasonably price no frills hotel but dont worry clean room and clean toilet. Location is a bummer though unless you have transport! Garuda Paza not to sure! Check out MedanKu.com for more latest details!I prefer Jakarta to Medan for better value for money mongering in my personal opinion & experaince!Originally Posted by Acerboy
Two of us was in Medan from 7-9 Jun 09. Air Asia landed in Medan Polonia Airport at 7:40am. After breakfast at SM Raja, searched for Hotel for nearly 90mins, finally checked in at Sakura. No frills hotel, good, clean, secure room for Rp200K, overseeing the front road. No fridge, but drinks are available in the room, just need to buy ice. No long bath. Pattaya Massage parlor was just next door and Yoga Massage parlor a few doors away. Was very excited. Got down to complete some office work in town and returned back about 5:30pm. After shower went over to Pattaya, they have the photos at the lobby, chose one. Rp80K per hour of just massage (msg) only. All others discuss in person with the girl. Usually all in is Rp300K. We have the first ten minutes to discuss our expectations and the pricing for other activities. If did not click, send back free of charge. But normally a Rp10K tip is normal. My one asked Rp300k + Rp80k for short time. But no BBBJ. I sent her back as expensive and no BBBJ. Friend too could not get one. Went over to Yoga also bad collection. The photos are 2-4yrs old, the girls have become women now.
Then took the motorised trishaw to Istana Hostel & Dangdut, Rp10K. Also the photos again. Could not get one, so just went for the massage alone with a grandma, Rp 70K per hr. Was a good msg, paid Rp100K. While going up the stairs saw a solid one, took her number, 13 I suppose. After msg called for the #13, came, told my expectations, agreed, chit chat drank some whisky for a while. Then slowly the standard routine and nothing special, can feel the wanting to be fast, looking at the watch.completed the job but not satisfied. Only looks are good & sexy, service screwed up. Damage Rp300k. My friend didn't take anybody, he was at the dangdut, or boy by the time I came down he has about 5 girls chatting with him. I was introduced we all chatted for a while, of course the beer bill was like Rp90K. A good chat, one thing what I got to know is we can book the room in Istana for Rp90 per day and we can use it for many girls. The girls are at the dangdut or are waiting outside, they ask from Rp150. Rp250. We still don't have one for the night. Then we took off to Jln Iskandar Muda, (Gajah Mada area) managed to get a pair for Rp300each for LT, it was already 11:30pm. The girls wanted to return by 5:00am, we bargained for 9:00am, agreed. Back in the Sakura hotel, met in my friend's room. I brought my Chivas Regal bottle bought at LCCT, and had drinks with the girls, my friend just took one pack, he is not a drinking kaki. But I had a few rounds. Left the Whisky in friend's room and back to my room with my girl. Just opposite rooms. Gave her some gifts, a ear ring, a chain & a bracelet. These are cheap ones which I bought in KL for RM28. Gave her due Rp300K. After receiving these the relationship was closer. As usual, shower together, talking, then mandi kucing, slowly ended up with BBBJ. Then missionary, doggie, end of the bed, spoon and cow girl, finally missionary before shooting out. Was good service, good slim, clean, body. After the cow girl position we rested for a while when I had a smoke and one more round of whisky. Her phone rang and I knew she is talking to my friend's girl in the opposite room, about returning in a few minutes. It was about 3:25am by now. Once finished I was tired and half as sleep, I heard she was on the phone again, I knew there is some problem with my friend, but I waited for him to call me just lazy and hassy. Without telling me she went out of the room, then I realize that my friend room door was also open, I can hear the other girl telling my friend that I told her to take the Whisky bottle which is more then half full. I didn't bother to wake up. When my friend came and checked with me if it is true that I gave away my whisky, then he said his girl was screwed up and sick, he did not get a screw. By now the girls already went down the lift. I dressed my self, rushed down the lifts. By then these two girls have taken the motorised trishaw. I grabbed a taxi waiting below, the driver also saw these girls with the bottle, he also know where they are heading, he chased & caught them hmid way, they were blushed, scolded and got the whisky and back to hotel. Taxi Rp60K. Lesson learnt, must be very careful with roadside pickups. No valuables in the room. If possible spent Rp100K extra and get from the hotel agents or hotel taxi drivers. They know their whereabouts. End of day one.
Day two started around 7:00pm after meeting all the office guys and completed the trips assignment. After dinner headed for DTH Dangdut, the collection was very less, and the place was too dark you can hardly see anything, so left after one beer. Headed for Istana again, got one good size one, recommended by the receptionist. Cost Rp180 all in. The man in charge is already a friend from yesterdays encounter, so he fixed price Rp180 all in full service. OK waited in the room, drinking my whisky, ordered water and ice from downstairs. She was in after about 10 minutes. My friend also got one. Chat for a while, she also had some whisky, then a 20 mins light msg, Shower together, her boobs were solid, milked it while shower. In bed very sensual, from nipples to the flag post, bottom balls all sucked, licked carefully, felt like flying to the moon. Then the BBBJ was fantastic. Could not forget, I am going back. Then cow girl style but not exactly cow girl. She spreads the leg & squat but not resting her weight on me, all on her leg, her body never touched by body, only my piston was in her cylinder, she moved up & down. When my piston goes in the full length, once inside there is a massaging effect, then slowly she pulls up right up to the piston tip but not out of the cylinder. My hands were busy tuning the frequency upstairs. Sometimes my my tongue was doing that during the tongue session she usually will fall back, cannot balance. A very good feeling, all my whisky feelings were gone. She also stares in my eyes and like asking me can you stand it or stop coming. She also says, tahan, tahan (hold it, hold it). After about 8/9 mins shoot out, but not a drip was out, all sucked in very well and she rushes to wash room. Only twice I had this experience before with a madura girl. After herself washing a very sensual massage for about 30minutes. There goes more then two hrs. And paid her Rp180 + Rp120 for all the good work. Definitely will return again for this one.
My friend also had a good time, satisfied, then went to Medan Plaza I got one good looking one, straight to KFC in the 3rd floor. She sat in one corner where nobody can see her, she facing the wall. While we had dinner, my friend was looking one for him. Couldn't get. I came back to hotel with my find. He went to Jln Iskandar Muda again looking for a girl he talked to the previous night but did not bring back. I warned him we already have problem from that area and advised him not to go there, but he insisted he can manage and he will not go to the same spot we took the girls yesterday. Back to my girl, when I had dinner, we were talking alot, during this time I have made judgements about this girl. She was educated can talk about the world economy situation in detail, especially the mortgages in USA, banking crisis, comparing Malaysia and Indonesia's politics and differences in both countries economic advancement. She used to be a Bank Officer and was retrenched about eight months back. Sincere too, told me she is a divorcee with a 2 year baby back at village. I asked straight on the face how much she will expect if she follow me back to hotel, she said Rp500, I said Rp300 she agreed straight away, no negotition, she was shy too. I told her, forgive me, I want to be straight to the point and do not want any argument later. While going back she walked ahead of me, I just follow about ten steps back. She is worried somebody would see her. She arranged for the taxi, while I waited away, then she signaled me into the taxi. When reached the hotel, I told her to wait at the lift, allow me to get the keycard from receptionist, I saw the receptionist and as a precaution, deposited my h/p, wallet, money. So I have nothing important to loose. Back in my room, we chat over some whisky gave her a cheap bracelet worth RM25. Then shower alone she was too shy. She had all the expensive make up and perfume. This time I made all the moves, she was really enjoying, I too was. Body very fair and clean. Not slim not fat. Started mandi kucing, she was moaning away, romanced to the fullest, kisses all over her body, toe to forehead, finger f** her, she was very wet and came already, grabbed me hard, apologised in my ears for not being able to do BJ. Some rest. Started with missionary, then doggie, cow girl, spoon she liked. After some rest and whisky pulled her to the corner edge of the bed with legs high in the sky sometimes resting on the chair while legs bent, pumped her, she responded with even stronger, deeper and pumping faster. Both came same time, another tight strong grab and off to washroom. She said she came 3 times already.commented very clever man. Massged me for a while, not a real massge but OK, acceptable especially after the game. Then smoked paid her due exchanged tel numbers. Told her I will look for her when I am in Medan. I still have contact with her, the next day she was in her village, todate have not returned. Next day 9:40am was our return flight.
While she was still in my room, I called my friend's room, he came with a sad story told in a angry tone.
He could not locate the girl he eyed yesterday, so got a new one, agreed for Rp200K. Took the taxi back to Hotel. This girl in the taxi, called somebody through the h/p. Seems like her abang "husband", and informing him the hotel name and where the taxi is passing by and describing my friend (small size, old man, neatly dressed). She called twice. My friend asked her who is that, why is she giving this information, she said her abang / husband. My friend got suspicious, asked the taxi to stop by the roadside, gave her Rp20K and the taxi Rp20K and asked the taxi to sent her back, no deal. She started to demand for Rp200K because she have already moved away from her place, which means she is booked. My friend said what booked, never even reached the hotel yet. The taxi guy supported her by saying, yes have to pay Rp200K since she have come out of her place. My friend throwed the Rp200K at her face and jumped into another taxi and straight to hotel. Luckily my friend did the right thing. If not somebody would have come to the hotel room and made havoc and we would have lost more. Again lesson learnt. Don't go for the roadside ones, unless you know them. Or introduced by someone you can trust.
I am definitely going back to Medan in end July or earlier August, just for these two women.
Will be also writing about the Betong, Thailand trip soon. Very important information, I have discovered and all new cheongsters should know this.
Sorry too long windowed. Bye.
There is only one hotel that I've been able to find that has women available for a short time on the premises. If you say the word "Hotel Istana" to any taxi or pedicab driver, they will take you there.
There seem to be three types of girls available at the hotel:
Type 1: Available all day. They cost 300K for a short time, which may include as many shots as possible within that time. The rooms have a shower, air conditioner, and TV. When you enter into the lobby, there is a desk that is separate from the reception. At said desk there is a man and a bunch of photos (something like 20). The girls that are already with customers have a suction cup (of the type that you would use to mount something on the wall) on their pictures already. It seems that 300K is the standard price, but some of the more attractive girls can want more.
After you choose a girl (no Bahasa needed here-- the purpose of the pictures is to facilitate the process by allowing you to just point), they will take you through a door that is about 10 feet from the desk and up some stairs to one of the rooms. The girl will then come in with a bag that contains some soap and towels. If you don't like her, you can send her away at that point. (This is what happend to me. The first girl that they sent me had huge, wonderful titties in the picture-- but a stomach that stuck out just as far as her big assed titties. She also spoke English and told me that she had been working in just that place for 7 months (that also killed my appetite, since in Mainland China most of the girls have been working in the business for an average of 1-2 weeks). The second girl had some type of bruises on her, and that killed my appetite immediately.) I went back later that day and tried to find a third girl, but they told me that she didn't go with foreigners because she was afraid of being ruptured. So, I told them that it was her or nothing at all (1), and that I could try to smooth her over when she came up to the room with smiles and politeness (2), and that I had had sex with many Asian girls and not a single one had died or been injured after having sex with me (3). That still was not enough. She came into the room and ran away the second she saw my smiling black face.
I noticed that the average age of the working girls in the photos was about 30.
I also took the trouble to ask which of the girls had shaved boxes and which ones did not. None of them were shaved (yay!), but this may have been attributable to the higher average age of the place.
The boss also told me that the girls had regular health checks. One time every 2 months, but he did not tell me whether this included an HIV test. This missing information and the fact that most of the girls had been working in the same place so long (and were so old) made me decide against bareback (even though I never even got around to any sex for the aforementioned reasons).
Type 2-- These girls show up in the parking lot after about 21:00. They are transient girls who just work in that particular lot. They were just a bit younger than the girls inside the hotel, but I don't reckon that they had had health checks. They also wanted the same price as the girls inside, but this price didn't include a room.
Type 3-- These girls were in the KTV, and it seems that the Mamasan in the KTV drifted between those girls and the Type 2 girls. The asking price was 500K, but it was offered lower after derisive laughter (the same in every language). I didn't get a chance to ask on the status of the health checks of these girls.
There are hotels nearby for something like 150,000Rp (US$15) that looked better than the rooms offered in Hotel Istana for the Type 1 girls. (The rooms and the Type 1 girls were part and parcel of a single package.)
I have also found that there are a number of streetwalkers. If you talk to any pedicab driver and make the universal gesture for sex, I've found out that two things can happen:
1. He will take you to a particular intersection where there are girls standing around doing Just What You Think They Are. 300K for a short time seems to be the average price.
2. He will take you to a bar. (This is what happened to me tonight.) There are normal girls there and working girls. You might have to ask who is who. I didn't have any success with this, and that's because the girls were both afraid to go with me. (I have not seen one single black person in one month in this city, and they were still afraid of me.) We didn't even get to discuss the price because we couldn't get past the fear factor. The girls wanted to travel in a pair, and I told them that that was fine-- but I was not paying for sex with two girls. One girl could stay in the room and watch TV or watch us (with her clothes on), but I would not pay for her.
Even this concession was not enough. The finally admitted that they were just afraid and not willing to go with me. (My smiling and complaisant demeanor was not enough to undo the damage of my physical size.)
This is a very accurate description of the girls about Hotel Istana. When desperate for a room I've stayed in the Istana; the rooms are quiet, clean, air-conditioned, and of fair value. The pictures of the masseuses are unappealing, as were the parking lot girls.
[QUOTE=Clandestine782]There is only one hotel that I've been able to find that has women available for a short time on the premises. If you say the word "Hotel Istana" to any taxi or pedicab driver, they will take you there.
There seem to be three types of girls available at the hotel:
I would use more than double protection if you use such services from Istana Hotel
It was reported in the press several months ago regarding few customers contacted HIV after petronizing their services. It was big news then!
For me, I would be happy digging into those very young & tight Uni girls from Padang Bulan @ Rp 400/- till morning - with unlimited numbers of rounds. On some occasions, the pits became red and raw after a few rounds that they pleaded me to stop.
Originally Posted by Clandestine782
Newbie asking for some guidance from brothers here, heading out to Medan next month. Read through the posts and its very helpful, decided to stay in Danau Toba Hotel and definitely to check out Padang Bulan as advised by Bro Jay Cee.
If there's anything brothers like to add or even meeting up there during this period will be great.
I was in Medan for business purposed in a place called Stabat. Arrived on Saturday at Polonia
Airport by AirAsia from KL and later checked in Danau Toba Hotel.
The hotel has 2 joint east and west wing with a Dangdut and Pub known as Travern Pub. You can
hunt in both places at night.. both places full of young ladies but preferably Travern Pub with
young chicks.. ratio are 2:1 so the chances of getting hooked are high. Most of them requesting
from 500K onwards for ST.. please nego dont just blindly agree. The price I managed to nego
for ST IDR250K.. Name Rina aged arround 25 from Padang.. had a great session with her.
Since my meeting in Stabat schedule on Tuesday, I take the chance travel to Berastagi.. a highland
area with breathtaking view.. I chartered a taxi from Medan city, driver name Pak Marbon and this guy
charges me with very reasonable price to Berastagi which tooks almost 2hours ++. On the way
Pak Marbon pointed me with Bandar Baru... a cheap brothle area.. almost every places has their own in house
girls and room for rent..darm it was cheap for only IDR100K for ST and was suprised with their stocks of young
girls aged 18-25! Well time dose'nt permited to "exercise" so ask Pak Marbun to get me to Berastagi.
At Berastagi checked-in to Sibayak Hotel which I assume is very expensive compare to their room condition
arround 700k per night. Went around the small town centre near the roundabout where you can find lots of fruits
and people selling souvenirs.. at one of the small shop I was shocked when this young girl seller aged around 14-15
offered sex service for 800k.. I politely say NO and walk away .. later at night feel horny due to the cold
temp around 20 degree celcius.. contacted the front office for a taxi - a small mini van a-like.. ask the driver
about any girls available and he's like blur with no any infos.. well left me with no choice, asked the driver
to drive downhill to Bandar Baru .. almost 40min and took 2 girls from one the "Mahligai".. when I told the pimp
that I'm going to bring the girls to Berastagi, he refused and say NO .. he's afraid that the girls might run away
Anyway I tried hard to convinced him that I'll look after them and treat them well.. as security he took my Malaysian
Driving licence.. so I agreed and bring the girls back to hotel... had 3 some and it was great experienced.. fucked them
twice before I slept. Wake up in the morning and had another good moring sex... for all damaged was 1.5 million for LT for both.
Called my taxi driver Pak Marbun and he came all day away from Medan.. on the way downhill stopped at Bandar Baru and returned
the girl to their respective Mahligai... drive all the way to Stabat and had success meeting woth clients.. overall the experinced
in Medan is good but still Jakarta is the best!
I managed to snap the girls when we are checking out from the room... no nudity
When you reached Padang Bulan, get a trishaw and tell him to go to where the ceweks are! cost you about Rp5000/- but save you lots of leg work - which you should reserve for other more meaningful use!
You may not even find the place on your own! so Rp5000/- to Rp10,000/- is money well spent!
Originally Posted by Led Zep
I have been reading thru most of the earlier reports on hotel istana, hotel sakura, padang bulan and travern bar. are they any more better ways or any recommended guides or okts we can see to get our best choices in Medan?
I would appreciate some regulars share some updated interesting info herein as I will be visiting Medan pretty soon....
I have already come back from Medan. i am quite lost and found it hopeless if good mongering is a main part of your proposed programme. Other than Pattaya massage (limited choices) and Hotel Istana which pretty run down for a cheap fuck joint...I could be bothered to check out any further because the man at the counter just told me the room rate and anything else other than that I have to negotiate with the girl ( under the pretext of securing a massage service code!)
I enquired with a cab driver about Padang Bulan and was told that it was a very long stretch of road nearing uphill closer to Bandar Baru where it is the hotels in the vincinity that is keeping some young Javanese girls for service rental? Due to lack of spare time available I did not pursue further as that destination requires a whole day and a chartered vehicle!
I kill my time , wandering around the Sun Plaza, did catch a few good view of stunners in some sexy minis but alas accompanied by their male escorts/boyfriends? I was informed I tried my hunting in the wrong area...it should be Medan Plaza instead...alas..maybe next time...
Plenty of choices near USU in Padang Bulan! (university of Northern Sumatra), along the road! as I had mentioned, one will not know where unless you are a local. I lived in Medan for 5 years already, so I am almost a a local!
Medan Plaza is a good choice for mongering. They usually sit around the walkways surrounding the building. there is a video game shop on the ground floor where several waits for customers, look for Eva or Linda there. They are hot! (no bj for Linda but damn sexy!)
Some will wait inside Texas, Kentucky etc. even in foodstalls. facing the mall. or even the landing facing escalators on the ground floor. You are damn unlucky if you cannot get one!
Failing which, take a bacek (Rp 5K- 7K) head towards Jln Iskandar Muda and stop at Ucuk Durian, cross the road and enjoy some durians there at Rp15K each. then walk back towards the traffic lights. There are some stunners there at Rp150K ST and Rp400K LT. Beware there are some scammers and guard your money well!
Enjoy! I mean the durians!
Originally Posted by Male 44
You must be really lazy!Originally Posted by Kieth Wind
All you have to do is RTFF and all of your questions will be answered. In fact, you don't even need to read very far - the next 20 posts should give you all the info you need.
I've stayed at the GF-hotel Grand Angkasa both times I've been in Medan, and visited Pattaya Massage (walking distance) and the Soccer Bar (in basement of the Grand Angkasa hotel) as well as several of the places mentioned below (Medan Plaza, Hotel Istana, etc.).
BTW, virtually every hotel in Indonesia is GF.
I look forward to reading one or more posts on your adventures in Medan in the near future.
I’m coming to Medan 17th Nov. I got a few days off so start flipping thru AirAsia and Medan’s flight was the cheapest. Already called and booked at City Inn Palang Merah thanks to Hoboken56 post 02-23-09. It is pretty far from all of the actions you’ve mentioned. Nevermind coz I need dependable internet.
Do you have any cab driver that you can recommend? Or maybe we can hook up for a drink. From previous posts it seems Elizabeth is the place for late supper. Can you tell me how to get there. I’ve been using Google Earth big time but can’t lock down the target.
You can RTFF my previous posts for credentials.
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