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  1. Puerto_La_Cruz
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    Hotel Scam

    Also happened to me very recently but it was generated inside of the hotel. I immediately got the duty manager and head of security. A couple of hours later I got a phone call in my room from the same guy. Fucker even knew my room number. It had to be somebody from inside of the hotel as only one other person in the world knew I was in Manila, at that hotel and the room number.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  2. Red_Kilt
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    Originally Posted by Puerto La Cruz
    Also happened to me very recently but it was generated inside of the hotel. I immediately got the duty manager and head of security. A couple of hours later I got a phone call in my room from the same guy. Fucker even knew my room number. It had to be somebody from inside of the hotel as only one other person in the world knew I was in Manila, at that hotel and the room number.
    Did you move hotels? That sort of internal shit is very scary. It happened to a friend of mine in Shangri-la Makati in 2008 and the caller made all sorts of threats to him because he reported the initial scam to security. He was very disturbed and moved hotels immediately because the guy told him he could easily get access to his room.
    Even in 5 star hotels??
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  3. Hesekiels
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    for free

    Originally Posted by Tally Wacker
    Then came the scam. LOL. He told me his family was down stairs and he asked me to buy a bottle of milk for his kids. I was not used to the currency yet so I pulled out a 20P... I figured out a bottle of milk is more expensive. At that point I wanted to get rid of him and gave him 40P.
    It is terribly sad to say that virtually no 'favor' is for free! Almost always these conversations end with the words "can you give me some money for ...". Sure there might be some exceptions, but you have a 90% chance for being ripped off. So, better do not rely on the help from a stranger!

    Cheers!


    Hesekiels
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  4. Puerto_La_Cruz
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    Originally Posted by Red Kilt
    Did you move hotels? That sort of internal shit is very scary. It happened to a friend of mine in Shangri-la Makati in 2008 and the caller made all sorts of threats to him because he reported the initial scam to security. He was very disturbed and moved hotels immediately because the guy told him he could easily get access to his room.
    Even in 5 star hotels??
    This happened at Diamond Hotel, a five star in Manila. I left the next day for other accomadations. As a result of what occurred, and as much as I like Diamond, I really don't know if I would stay there again.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  5. Sxxxx
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    Secret Place

    Originally Posted by Ratszo
    Yeah, on UN a block (or two?) off of Del Pillar going away from Roxas.

    Next block from Pillar is Manibay?

    Just walk on United Nations. It's right on the corner.

    R
    Thanks for that. I know where you mean now , we wont make it too clear or those young handsome studs, or those older imaginative guys, might get there before me , lol.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  6. FreebieFan
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    Originally Posted by Red Kilt
    Hey guys we all got through it unscathed so no sweat but I hope our stories are a helpful "heads-up" for newbies.

    Like the other guys, I thought I was immune to all the scams.

    Just beware and don't think they will never get you because these guys are real professionals.

    Unfortunately it makes you very distrusting of EVERYBODY including the nice people who genuinely wish to help you.
    And its not only in Manila. The other day I'm sitting in a bar in Malaysia and was with a cute Indonesian friend. A local guy is smiling at me, but as I'm busy I'm giving him the " do not disturb" glare.

    He sidles up to me with his clamshell phone open, and its got my damn name on his phone. I just told him thats not me and concentrated on my lady friend. But damn. Scary moments. Left the bar shortly afterwards.

    Mongering has its moments for sure!

    PS. Sorry S*********ks if that report is impressive. Will try and impress you less. Alteratively, you could try and get quarter of a life and try for some personal development therafter.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  7. Brastrav
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    Hotel scams: pimp Danny

    Collegues,

    In June 2010, when I was visiting Manila and after leaving Robinsons Mall at the Padre Faure entrance, a guy approached me. He introduced himself as Danny and said that he was working in the Cherry Blossoms Hotel, the hotel I was staying that time.

    My answer to him was straight and direct. I've answered him: "Yes, you've scammed me last year also. Fuck your poor and too expensive students yourself. If you don't dissapear right away, I will kick your but out." As fast as he approached, that fast he left.

    When I reached my hotel, I've asked the security guards if they know someone working in Cherry Blossoms Hotel with the name Danny. Their answer was negative.

    A few days later I saw Danny sitting inside Robinsons Mall in front of a restaurant, I think Racks. When I was approaching him, I was pretending not seeing him, but when I passed by, I turned my head towards him and gave him the most furious devillish look I've got. He didn't know where to look afterwards...

    See also my report from last year, when he indeed cheated me.


    Originally Posted by Puerto La Cruz
    Also happened to me very recently but it was generated inside of the hotel. I immediately got the duty manager and head of security. A couple of hours later I got a phone call in my room from the same guy. Fucker even knew my room number. It had to be somebody from inside of the hotel as only one other person in the world knew I was in Manila, at that hotel and the room number.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  8. Cunning_Stunt
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    Scammers

    Waaah ... that 'Remember me, I work at your hotel' introductory line from your friendly neighborhood scammer must be as old as Lim but still obviously works a treat as they happily carry on using it.

    Way back in the 80's, I was scammed within 1 hour of first arriving in Manila (the 'too good to be true' exchange rate trick) on my cherry trip and have since had a healthy skepticism of strangers who approach uninvited.

    Mind you, it is not always the locals that you have to be wary of. There used to be a 'down on his luck' foreigner (no idea of his nationality but not Brit or American) who used to hang out in Robinsons and whose trick was to approach likely looking tourist victims with his well honed 'sob story' about having all his money stolen and needing a thousand or so to see him by until his parachute money comes in. I wonder how many fell for it? He seems to have gone so maybe he has been deported or retired to a Bel Air mansion.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  9. Mattrick
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    Malate Scammer

    Originally Posted by Mike Bel
    In June 2010, when I was visiting Manila and after leaving Robinsons Mall at the Padre Faure entrance, a guy approached me. He introduced himself as Danny and said that he was working in the Cherry Blossoms Hotel, the hotel I was staying that time.
    Originally Posted by Tally Wacker
    I had that exact same thing happen to me in Robinsons Mall in Malate two weeks ago.
    Is this the guy that is approaching some of you in Malate/Ermita?
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    • Brastrav
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      Re: Malate scammer

      No Mattrick, this is certainly not the scammer I've wrote about. Pimp Danny, introducing himself working in Cherry Blossoms Hotel, is slim and very tall. I'm 1m80 or 5'11" high, but Danny is taller than me.

      Originally Posted by Mattrick
      Is this the guy that is approaching some of you in Malate/Ermita?
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Denom
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      Originally Posted by Cunning Stunt
      Waaah ... that 'Remember me, I work at your hotel' introductory line from your friendly neighborhood scammer must be as old as Lim
      Haha - that's a good one

      Another one is "Hey - I remember you from last year".
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Denom
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      Originally Posted by Hendko
      If you want a simple, hassle free massage and sex go to MP in Cubao.

      Cubao sauna- in street behind the sogo at corner of edsa and aurora, just get mrt.
      400P at the counter for 1 hour massage, choose a number on the wall for the MPA (if you know a no. recommended by friend etc) or ask receptionist to choose.

      Upstairs, take a shower and then go to that room no.

      You then negotiate extra service with the MPA in the room, - usually 500-700p, don’t choose no. 96

      Similar place is Happy Sauna on E Rodriguez. 1 block up edsa cnr edsa and aurora.
      500p at counter, min 500p for extra while in the room.
      Places like Happy Sauna are good for a quick cheap fuck, and the girls are usually young.

      But you guys should try Ginza sauna some time. It's on Quezon Avenue, in front of Great Eastern hotel. Only hand job but the best part is that you get a real massage (not like Happy sauna) and then you get your balls massaged which is just divine, then your willie massaged until happy end (for an extra 400 pesos). It's a real treat. There's even a forum (I think is called Manila Tonight) where people exchange experiences and advices based on the girl's numbers, even charting them.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Red_Kilt
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      Originally Posted by Denom
      Places like Happy Sauna are good for a quick cheap fuck, and the girls are usually young.

      But you guys should try Ginza sauna some time. It's on Quezon Avenue, in front of Great Eastern hotel. Only hand job but the best part is that you get a real massage (not like Happy sauna) and then you get your balls massaged which is just divine, then your willie massaged until happy end (for an extra 400 pesos). It's a real treat. There's even a forum (I think is called Manila Tonight) where people exchange experiences and advices based on the girl's numbers, even charting them.
      ISpa in Metrowalk has a happy ending built in to the ISpa special massage.
      Prices are 1000 for an hour but discounted at present to 800 php (or maybe it was just for me because I am hansum lol).
      I always have the ISpa special which consists of 40 mins of back massage and leg massage including the area right up in the groin so she can give the balls a nudge. Then it is "roll-over" on your back for a "sensual massage" which has been a series of very very sensuous happy endings as she milked me dry each time.
      I have had 3 different girls each visit and each one was better than the earlier one. Only drawback with the place is the walls are thin and open at the top but the place is VERY clean and very well run. I gave each girl a tip at the end which is usual operating procedure in these places but needs to be just a notional amount.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Irony_Monger
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      Originally Posted by Mattrick
      Is this the guy that is approaching some of you in Malate/Ermita?
      Looks a lot like the guy who scammed me at Glorietta Mall a few weeks back, though I think his hair was shorter and he was wearing an orange shirt that looked similar to what the staff at my hotel was wearing.

      I say we all pitch in and get the guy some more five fingered dental work.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Run_Mann
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      Originally Posted by Irony Monger
      Looks a lot like the guy who scammed me at Glorietta Mall a few weeks back

      How did he scam you?
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Irony_Monger
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      Originally Posted by Run Mann
      How did he scam you?
      I was looking for a cell phone, he did the "Hey I recognize you from the hotel, I know a friend who will give you a great deal" bit. I fell for it, ended up paying too much for a run of the mill phone and "lending" him some money for medicine which he was going to return that night at the hotel after he got his paycheck (of course he never showed and no one there had never heard of him). All of this on my first morning in the Philippines ever. Yes, a fool and his money are soon parted. Lets just say I quickly learned not to be so trusting. I chock it up to a right of passage...at least I got my cherry boy scam out of the way quickly and without too much damage.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Run_Mann
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      Originally Posted by Irony Monger
      I was looking for a cell phone, he did the "Hey I recognize you from the hotel, I know a friend who will give you a great deal" bit. I fell for it, ended up paying too much for a run of the mill phone and "lending" him some money for medicine which he was going to return that night at the hotel after he got his paycheck (of course he never showed and no one there had never heard of him). All of this on my first morning in the Philippines ever. Yes, a fool and his money are soon parted. Lets just say I quickly learned not to be so trusting. I chock it up to a right of passage...at least I got my cherry boy scam out of the way quickly and without too much damage.
      Thanks for sharing, your inexperience did contribute greatly to your misfortune but as you said you did learn something new. Be careful not to venture out to Burgos where the peddlers and scammers are embedded in the area and are on the prowl for novices.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Red_Kilt
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      scams

      These stories, and my own experience (once) means these guys must have a very good rate of success.
      As I said elsewhere, they are so good at it that the only way you can avoid them is to be downright rude, and that is anathema to a newbie who is setting out to be loved by all.

      This thread should be compulsory viewing for all newbie Phils visitors.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • D_Cups
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      Hi Guys, I am re-posting this...

      What is the closest (walking distance) and reasonably-priced (~$50 USD) hotel near Havana, please?

      I used to stay at Executive Plaza in Malate for LA Cafe but now that LAC is closed I have to conduct my interviews somewhere else hehehehe.

      Much obliged and happy horndogging!
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Hesekiels
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      success

      Originally Posted by Red Kilt
      These stories, and my own experience (once) means these guys must have a very good rate of success...

      RK:

      yes, you bet your life! The only thing one can do in such situations is giving him or her (!) a smile while saying "no thanks, I'm fine", or "it's not my first time in the Philippines so I know this trick". And particularly no further conversation with these jerks! For me that worked out quite nicely!

      Cheers!

      Hesekiels
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Econo_Tech
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      Originally Posted by D Cups
      Hi Guys, I am re-posting this.

      What is the closest (walking distance) and reasonably-priced (~$50 USD) hotel near Havana, please?

      I used to stay at Executive Plaza in Malate for LA Cafe but now that LAC is closed I have to conduct my interviews somewhere else hehehehe.

      Much obliged and happy horndogging!
      Check BSA mansion - just across Greenbelt.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Westcoast1
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      Originally Posted by D Cups
      Hi Guys, I am re-posting this.

      What is the closest (walking distance) and reasonably-priced (~$50 USD) hotel near Havana, please?

      I used to stay at Executive Plaza in Malate for LA Cafe but now that LAC is closed I have to conduct my interviews somewhere else hehehehe.

      Much obliged and happy horndogging!
      There are several places right down Adriatico, walking from Havana to Robinsons, right on Adriatico. In the area also is Tropicana Apartments, City-State, Lotus Garden, and City Garden. All $45-$60.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • D_Cups
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      Thank you, Westcoast. You are a gentleman and a scholar!

      Originally Posted by Westcoast1
      There are several places right down Adriatico, walking from Havana to Robinsons, right on Adriatico. In the area also is Tropicana Apartments, City-State, Lotus Garden, and City Garden. All $45-$60.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • D_Cups
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      Will do, ET. Thank you very much!

      Originally Posted by Econo Tech
      Check BSA mansion - just across Greenbelt.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Natty_Bumpo
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      Staying Safe

      Originally Posted by Hesekiels
      The only thing one can do in such situations is giving him or her (!) a smile while saying "no thanks, I'm fine", or "it's not my first time in the Philippines so I know this trick". And particularly no further conversation with these jerks! For me that worked out quite nicely!
      This is excellent advice. I only want to add these additional points.

      First, know in your mind that there is never anything these shills have to offer that is of any interest or worth your time investigating. To them you are a fish and they are trying to catch you in their net. Swim around the net. Never stop and get involved.

      Second, you are not there to make friends with street hustlers. Never yell or lose you cool with them. Maintain your dignity and place in society. As a foreign tourist, you are millions of miles above them. (Is that politically incorrect? Tough.) Try to ignore them, but when accosted by these buggers follow Hesekiels advice and politely say "no thanks” and just walk on. If they persist and follow you, turn on them and firmly say "don't bother me “and then continue to walk away.

      That should do it unless you are someplace you should not be. Which brings me to my third piece of advice; stay alert and always be aware of your surroundings.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • D_Cups
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      How much more is p**** from Havana, Hyena? I'd rather spend my money on good p**** than a damn hotel room!

      Originally Posted by The Hyena
      If 50 bucks is your limit for a hotel in Makati, I would not even bother going to Havana's. You would be better off waiting for LA Cafe to open again. It's two different venues and price points completely.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • D_Cups
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      Originally Posted by Irony Monger
      Looks a lot like the guy who scammed me at Glorietta Mall a few weeks back, though I think his hair was shorter and he was wearing an orange shirt that looked similar to what the staff at my hotel was wearing.

      I say we all pitch in and get the guy some more five fingered dental work.
      The SOB certainly needs to be taught a permanent lesson.

      Speaking of scams (and I realize this belongs in the Ukrainian thread but I'm too lazy to post there...) there are many scammers posting on East European dating websites whose pictures are of drop-dead gorgeous young beauties who will correspond and send you sexy photos in some cases for months before they hit you up for money for translation services or even visa. These scammers are very clever. I was fooled for a while but then saw the same picture and letter on romancescam.com before any damage was done. They prey on lonely older guys who want a trophy wife on their arm. Beware!

      Stick to face-to-face (or dick-to-face in Asia or South America!
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Bundanko
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      All the scam are due to dsperation

      On my many visits to Manila and other cities in Philippines I have encountered all sorts of tactic how these guys try to earn something or just anything to feed their family. There is hardly anything they can do. There are just too many people looking for what little job is available. All these people we meet are desperate. They know that any foreigner is any time better off than them. They all expect a bit of handouts. Normally they don't rob you outright but in a round about manner so to speak. Bear in mind many of them are religious despite their hopeless situation. For example as you come out of your hotel a few people try you offer all sort of helps. Some will give you directions to the restaurant and accompany you up to the door, others try to wave a taxi for you, while others try to show the way to the bars. They expect some tips in the end. Just wave them away with polite thank you and walk faster. They will just drop off.

      You will also note that while you are in the expensive bars such as Asian Entertainment, there will be guys trying to massage you while you are having drinks or even in the toilet expecting some tips. If you pity them just give them something. They are all desperate to feed their family. If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? Probably when this country is economically better, but then you will not be able to get cheap pussy anymore as the girls will also have other jobs available. Enjoy while you can and be street at the same time.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Hesekiels
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      about services and favors

      Originally Posted by Bundanko
      ... If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? ...
      Bundanko:

      Indeed a good question!

      Firstly, I would say that 'carrying our luggage' is a service that certainly deserves a tip!

      Secondly, if somebody stops us a taxi - although we have told him 'nope man, I will do it myself' - I tend to doubt that tipping is really a must here.

      Thirdly, if somebody just tells us the direction to the place we want to go, then IMHO a smile plus words like 'many thanks for your help' should be good enough!

      Or am I grossly mistaken, gentlemen? Your opinions?

      Cheers!


      Hesekiels
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
    • Sammon
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      Originally Posted by Bundanko
      On my many visits to Manila and other cities in Philippines I have encountered all sorts of tactic how these guys try to earn something or just anything to feed their family. There is hardly anything they can do. There are just too many people looking for what little job is available. All these people we meet are desperate. They know that any foreigner is any time better off than them. They all expect a bit of handouts. Normally they don't rob you outright but in a round about manner so to speak. Bear in mind many of them are religious despite their hopeless situation. For example as you come out of your hotel a few people try you offer all sort of helps. Some will give you directions to the restaurant and accompany you up to the door, others try to wave a taxi for you, while others try to show the way to the bars. They expect some tips in the end. Just wave them away with polite thank you and walk faster. They will just drop off.

      You will also note that while you are in the expensive bars such as Asian Entertainment, there will be guys trying to massage you while you are having drinks or even in the toilet expecting some tips. If you pity them just give them something. They are all desperate to feed their family. If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? Probably when this country is economically better, but then you will not be able to get cheap pussy anymore as the girls will also have other jobs available. Enjoy while you can and be street at the same time.
      It is not only in poor countries people are looking for money. Have you gone to any casinoes in las vegas etc? Starting from house keeping to the door man is definitely looking for tips. In new york city everybody is looking for tips. Try getting a room boy help you to get a girl. Ofcourse he is looking for a tip. Not counting bartenders, waitresses and some guys on the street.
      Many asian countries do not have tipping culture. Locals generally never tip and even if they do maybe 2%. So it is no wonder when locals see foreigners they see it as people who have money because of the strenghth of the dollar, pound, Yen etc. We tend to give tips because our currency goes a long way there.
      Having said this it is not a good idea to give money to scammers who offer girls, want to take you to casas, try to sell you fake products. This will only encourage them to scam more.
      But tipping, helping street kids, being generous is acceptable to help the poor people.
      Posted 4 years ago | #Reply

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