Ho Chi Minh City - Massage Parlors
Frankly a separate thread on massage parlours in HCMC is not going to see a lot of traffic.Originally Posted by Admin
The typical deal for massage in HCMC is rooms or booths that have windows or openings so that people can peer in. They usually have a locker room where they expect you to change beforehand and put on their baggy shorts. The gals wear a sort of skirt/shorts combination that seriously restricts access. All of this set up is to deliberately reduce the opportunity for extras. Most places have sauna and jacuzzi but there is no choice of girls unless you have a name from before.
Very rarely have I been offered any extras and that was always no more than a furtive HJ. The only place where this was consistently offered is the place on Dong Do in the lane opposite the Club Italia (aka Sports Bar).
Basic 30 mins massage is usually about VND 100,000 and extras (if you can get them) are negotiated from there.
Sudz, I had an excellent massage at the Rex, "Club". Baggy pants and all. I believe the attendant goes through your clothes while you are getting the massage. The elaborate locking procedure is just a farce because they have the master key anyway. BBBJ was on special that night for $50 USD but negotiable. $20USD for HJ. Not rushed and full exploration of top and bottom. Had dinner with the lil Hunnie afterwards but because I was leaving the next morning I didn't pursue anything further. Jacuzzi and suana also.
I actually had a decent massage, with lots of extras including BBBJ, and FS, at the superbowl out by the airport. The Mamasan, although she hates to be called that, speaks great English and will set you up. It has been a while but i believe the total damage was 300K.
Apart from that it is nearly impossible to get anything more than previously described. It used to be easier, 5 or 6 years ago, but I think the Government has been cracking down in an effort to attract tourism.
Strictly from a massage standpoint the basic babrbershop is a no hanky panky facility. The only good thing is you can have a good massage by a sweet lil 20 something scantily dressed rubbing her nubile body all over you for about 4 or 5 USD for an hour. Good thing is you can sometimes negotiate a later date. Had one of these everday as therapy......most of the hunnies are stunning.
Just a quick report on an MP experience I had a few months back in HCMC.
I walked in to a massage place at Pham Ngu Lao, ordered for a body massage at100k which came with free foot massage. (Note foot massage is done at a separate area from the body massage) Since this was my first experience for this type of establishment, I didn’t know how the system worked. So I just followed whatever told.
After a nice shower/Jacuzzi/steam/sauna/and more shower, which was very clean and nice, I was given shorts to wear. The mama san led me to a small but clean cubicle and told me to wait. I didn’t know what to do in there while waiting for a girl, but the instinct told me to just lie down on the bed facing up, where I noticed the railing fixed on the ceiling. After seemingly a long wait, a petit, a little chubby girl entered. She seemed to have some rudimentary understanding of English. Rapport was established between us by smiles and simple conversations. Having done the normal massage, (I was still face down) she moved onto some suggestive hand movements between my cheeks (read a gentle AR). As she probed her thumb through the crack, I lifted my bum a little to get the full effect of it. Nice. She motioned me to flip over, with which I duly complied.
She works on my toes, pulling, twisting and moving up the legs, the calve, the thighs. As she kneads my thighs, her hands purposely brush my member and balls. I feel it rising with anticipation and the inevitable end.
There, she stops, bringing me back to the reality. She leans over me and asks if I want a massage down there, to which I say "how much". She starts with a ridiculous price like 500K. A 500K for a HJ, no way. I negotiates down to 300K (this is still too high) but I was quite chuffed with the AR technique she demonstrated earlier on. She tries to cheer me up by saying that the next it would be 200K. I feel better.
She starts the gentle up and down movement on the now limp member, but building up by touching balls and AR actions. By now the poor chap is now fully obliged. I extend my right hand to touch her bum and bosom. She let me do that as long as it does not go too deep. I ask if I can see her pussy to which she says no, but lets me touch it over her knickers. I try to move the fabric to one side. But this effort is thwarted by the tight fitting of her knickers. Oh well.
Being conscious of time, I decide to unleash my load. She gently squeezes out the last remaining liquid, cleans me up, and gives me an affectionate hug, signaling this is THE END.
Total damage: 100K body massage + 300K tip. (away too much! )
Remember free foot massage I mentioned in the beginning? My next report will be about that which develops into a rather unexpected event.
Folks,Originally Posted by Larry L Lizard
Fyi. All massages come with happy ending in vietnam. I have yet to go to one that didn't provide happy ending. All inclusive. Never ask "how much"! That is the us style.
The vietnamese guys I talk to say that "what is a massage without the finish"
When I go to these places, I usually ask for a HJ first, then massage, then another HJ at the end.
I usually stay at the Park Hyatt when travelling for business. Their staff are very nice. But very pricey. This time, I was on my own. I can speak vietnamese, not perfect but acceptable.
I have a friend who is running a travel agency and she helps me booking a hotel not far away from Ben Thanh market. Sorry, I can't mention the hotel cos I want to protect their business. Rememeber, we are reading this forum, as well as the cops and local agency.
On the first morning, I went to the Massage salon operating within the hotel. As I had an appointment with my relatives at noon, so I just opted for 1 hour massage. I was escorted to the changing room, and took all my clothes. I was given a boxer short. Then I was guided to a nice room.
The massage session was great. The girl stepped on your back. 15 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. I said yes, she then covered the lower part and did it under-cover.
Cost: 10 USD for 1 hour massage and 200K or 12USD
On the same evening, I went back for 2 hours VIP. I got body massage, foot massage and facial. The whole session was exceptional, except all the girls were working on you so there are no special. Cost 25 USD and 200K or 12 USD tipping the 3 girls.
I came back the following morning, and opted for 1 hour massage. This time, the girl litterally sat on my back, and rub her pussy on leg and thigh.
Then 20 minutes before the end, she asked whether I wanted massage there. She took off my short, didn't bother to cover anything, pour oil on my little brother and worked on it. She let me roaming under her panties, fingering as well.
Cost 10 USD for the massage and 20 USD for tipping.
I'm sure that the girls are ready for take away.
PM me your phone number and I will SMS you the name of the hotel as well as their Web site. No Vietnamese phone number, only overseas phone number. I just want to protect good business from crack down.
By the way, cost of room is 70-80 USD with air con, king size bed, and good wi-fi.
I decided to check out the massage parlor scene and wandered over to the Sachi Spa. It is in an alleyway off of Dong Du. I echo what has been said before, it has no private rooms, what they have are like bathroom stalls almost with partitions that don't go all the way to the floor or ceiling.
The whole experience was awful. The girl gave me shorts to wear and when I said I didn't want to wear them, she did what all Asians seem to do when they don't want a confrontation, just smiled and walked away.
So, I put the shorts on, no big deal. She came back and proceeded to give me a decent massage for about 20 minutes.
Then, she hands me off to another girl. It must be an arrangement where the girl I had didn't do extras, so she passed me along to one that did. Anyway, about two minutes in she starts placing my hand on her tits and asking me if I want extras. She wasn't specific about what, but I was not assuming sex given the room situation.
Contrary to what I had read earlier, she starts asking me how much I will pay. From what I read, a handjob is normally part of the routine and you tip around 200,000. She starts at 800,000 and I had to suppress a laugh. I said I would pay 200,000 and she starts calling me cheap. I am cheap, but more than anything I don't like getting ripped off.
She then comes down to 500,000 and I tell her no, I will just take a massage at this point. Of course, this has now made the mood somewhat hostile since she has called me cheap several times. She continued to give me a crappy massage while trying to convince me to pay her price.
She then pulls down my shorts and comes down to 300,000. I really just wanted to get out of there at that point, but in order to keep the peace I said OK, 300, even though I know I am still overpaying. She then gave me a pretty crappy hand job. I took my wallet with me to take a quick shower and then started to leave.
Something that pissed me off was that on the way out, she brings back the girl that massaged me first so that I could tip her as well. If that girl wasn't getting a piece of the 300,000, she is stupid. Anyway, the whole experience felt dirty from start to finish.
Here's my report on Lido which is the same place that Larry L Lizard went to earlier. The price for entry and a one-hour massage is 100, 000 if you come before noon, I forget how much it is after noon. This comes with a free foot massage although you will be expected to leave a separate tip for it. Obviously, you don't have to take the foot massage if you don't actually want one.
The girl I got was perhaps a 7, slightly chubby for an Asian girl. Nonetheless, she knew what to do to turn negotiation in her favor. So when it came time, she asked, I said yes, and then she asked how much. Of course, her first offer was something like 500, 000, a ridiculous sum to pay for 15 minutes of work in Vietnam. Yet there is probably somebody not knowing any better who will pay that much every once in awhile.
After explaining how often I get massages and how often I usually pay I still was only able to get her down to 160, 000. Afterwords, she complained some and asked for more but in the end she also told me to come back and ask for her by name/number and that she would go for the same price next time.
Total damage here was 260, 000. Let them know you've been here awhile, you'll be here a while, and you know what the local prices are.
I was introduced to this board by a very distinguished member here. I am relatively new to Vietnam, but have a few experiences.
Does anyone know the address to Vien Dong Massage? I have RTFF and have only read some mention of it, but no real report and location. It is supposed to be popular with the locals. I am white, so would I be accepted?
Would love to report back on my findings. Thanks.
My experience is that when the girl insists too long time for getting high price, she usually also gives a bad handjob! Anyway, there is no contract signed! bad service = bad tip!Originally Posted by Russell Crowe
I remember once a massage girl got me crazy at Bongsen Hotel. First, she gave me a poor massage. Secondly, she got me nervous insisting on getting a too high price. It was similar as with you. Finally, getting tired I agreed for less than she wanted, but more than what I should pay. Of course, she gave me a quickie without trying in any way to provide a good service. Finally, she left me alone 5mn to answer her mobile phone. I was so upset that I went out of the room by myself while she was phoning. When I went to the counter to pay my massage she was looking what I put in the "tip" line, and I just put 0!
Sometimes it's better to take another massage than to stay with a girl who you feel she considers you as a sucker!
Do they give you a plastic bag there for your valuables to carry with you? At a 4-5 star hotel I usually don't worry, but at other places I like to keep my valuables in hand. The Vien Dong, by the way, gives you a bag. The major drawback with the VD (which is generally a nicely run place) is that the girls seldom know how to give a decent massage. If it were baseball, they would be closers only.
Massages at Vien Dong is 100K for an hour. If you go before 4pm, you get an hour and a half. I haven't been there in awhile so I don't remember if they still have that promotion.Originally Posted by Vnwood
Most girls only do HJ there, once in awhile, you'll find a gril who will give you a BJ. I usually tip 100k -150k depending on the girl. If she gives me a BJ, then I give her 200K.
Hey all, thanks for the feed back on Vien Dong. Through your reports about VN, I decided to check out another place outside of D1. A fellow distinguished member of another forum hooked me up with the address and # of the girl. WOW. The BEST massage I have ever had in Vietnam to date.
First off, it is in Thu Duc, so is a little way out (up to 1 hr), but the number of foreigners going there are fewer. Got the VIP room 100K. Small locker inside room. As soon as the guy escorted me to my room and left, the girl walked in. She undressed me in a very explorative manor.
She put me in the steam room for a while, its ok. I like the lemon grass smell, but not much into steam. Besides, we were waiting for the bath tub to fill up. She pulled me out of the steam room and into the tub. From there, she washed every part of me, paying very particular attention to my tool and ass. Very methodical and not rushed.
From the start she had a great bubbly attitude for the cute 24y/o. After a thorough washing/bath/shampoo. On came my shorts. She was also wearing loosely fitted clothing, not as nice looking as the teases in D1, but MUCH more accommodating.
A lot more playing and on my front I go. She did the rub/pounding routine. Not bad, but not great. On the flip, she asked if I wanted a BJ. I said yes. She said 400K. I then said 200K. Only did that 2X and she happily agreed with 200K once I told her I knew the price. She just told me no CIM. Agreed and went on.
Up came her top and unhooked her bra. She preceded to give me a tongue bath. A real life, wet tongue bath. From the neck to the nips to the shaft. And she was highly encouraging me to do the same to her. She starts the BBBJ, then lifts up my legs and tosses my salad. WOW. I have never had such a professional job at this. She went on to alternate BBBJ, tossing the salad. I couldn't believe she was so energetic while giving me the "TUMA". All while this is happening, her leg was lifted up on the table giving me very easy access to finger her and DATY.
Then she breaks out the baby oil and lubed up her chest. Nice oiled B cup with her hands squeezing them sent me over the top. From there, she started the clean up routine, first washing herself then a light massage on me. We talked for while and gave me her number.
Over all, the place is not geared for westerners as the decor and cleanliness is local style. However, great service, wonderful attitude, and a unique way about pleasing her clients, I give this place a 9. 5. (only because it was not a classy place and there was a bunch of teenagers (10) without shirts waiting in the lobby and staring at me as I left. Total damage was 100K house + 200K tip = 300K not including taxi (100K one way from D1). 500K total. Not bad in my mind for a little over $30 USD.
As a side note, this gal is really into DFK. I am not, but if that is your thing. Its all you can eat.
Ok, there is an on going debate on this board about how much info should be given. The gal was very free and open, however still constantly checking at the window. I am not sure if LE would try to do something, but if you want the Name, Address, telephone, and girls number, please PM me and I would gladly give it to you.
I am not sure if only this one girl gives this service, or the whole place does. Also, if more is available on the menu for repeats. Guess that we will just have to find out.
I have gotten a lot of responses back requesting the address, so I thought I would also give an update. (PM me for the info.)
Been back a couple times and checked out different girls. It seems that the tongue bath is pretty much their signature move at this place with all the girls. All else varies with the provider. I only experienced the salad toss and titty job with one girl. However, another one was CIM and a much better massage / better looking.
Had the chance to see a lot of the girls in there, most of them are normal / average lookers, (except one that I found and experienced). I even told one girl to leave because we didn't hit it off right away in the same magic that I experienced before. Glad I did.
Its worth a try at least once. Friendly staff and the more I went, the place didn't look that bad.
Happy hunting and I look forward to those reports.
Padlock your trousers to show sex is off-limits, Indonesian tourist town tells its masseuses
The Daily Mail (UK), 10th April 2008
Massage parlours in an Indonesian town are asking their female masseuses to padlock their skirts and trousers to make it clear that sex is not on offer.
But the move provoked a protest from the minister for women's affairs in Indonesia, where massage parlours are often a front for prostitution.
"It is not the right way to prevent promiscuity," Meutia Swasono said. "It insults women ... as if they are the ones in the wrong."
Ms Swasono said CCTV was the best way to safeguard women workers in the parlours.
At least one parlour in the tourist town of Batu on Java island has required its masseuses to padlock their skirts or trousers to make it clear that the establishment does not tolerate prostitution.
Others in the town started following suit after local officials suggested it was a good idea at a recent meeting with massage parlour owners.
The Jakarta Post, which quoted Ms Swasono, also showed a photograph of a masseuse with a padlock on the waist band of her trousers and said the local administration's move was aimed at curbing prostitution and maintaining Batu's image as a popular tourist destination.
"The padlocking phenomena has been seen at various parlors and it is something we like," said Imam Suryono, the head of Batu's public order authority.
He denied media reports that he had formally ordered masseuses to wear padlocks.
Batu, 75 km (46 miles) south of Indonesia's second-biggest city, Surabaya, is a popular tourist destination for its cool climate, hot springs and mountain scenery.
Indonesia has a flourishing sex industry and massage parlours are frequently a front for prostitution. But there has been a vigorous debate over morality in recent years, exposing deep divisions in the Southeast Asian Muslim-majority nation.
Last month, Indonesia passed a bill to restrict access to pornographic and violent sites on the internet, while its parliament has yet to pass a controversial pornography bill that aims to shield the young from pornographic material and lewd acts.
Earlier draft versions contained provisions that could jail people for kissing in public and criminalise many forms of art or traditional culture that hinge on sensuality.
Here if my field report for Sachi and Lido:
1. Sachi Spa. Same story as others, I was not impressed. I had forgotten about reading about Sachi in the forum and was called in by a reasonably looking young woman. "Okay, how bad can it be? " was my initial reaction. First problem, the room is a joke, if you can even call it a room. Basically it's a large room upstairs (climbing a ladder, not really stairs) and there are booths with open air above and below. Think a men's restroom where the toilets are, a bunch of handicap stalls next to each other. At this point I'm not even thinking of mongering, the girl is cute and gives a decent massage, but after 20 mins says "how much you pay me. " She started at 800, 000 and I really laughed out loud. This was a problem because other people were getting massages and could hear us! I tried to call the whole thing off because it wasn't really a good setup, but to make a long story short I ended up paying 300, 000 and got it over with, HJ wasn't even that great. So I echo the sentiment, Sachi is awful, avoid at all cost. Setup sucks, you don't get a decent massage, girls are annoyingly pushy. Oh as a price point I did ask about BBBJ but it started the whole 800, 000 negotiation over again so I got bored.
2. Lido. Food massage was actually really good haha. After a quick steam shower (a bit dingy but got the job done), you go to a relaxation area where they had a TV with no sound. There was some fat Japanese dude snoring next to me which kinda sucked, but the foot massage was good, cute young girl, about an 8. I still think the Thais do it best but this was a close 2nd.
The main massage, however, was just awful. I don't know if this is just a Vietnam thing, but the massages are very sharp and painful, kinda like the girl is using her thumb and middle finger as pincers on your pressure points. Hell, maybe it's supposed to be relaxing but it was painful, esp. Since this girl has smaller hands and couldn't really get to the muscle so she was just pinching flab. Ouch! I also think this girl thought applying pressure against the massage table (standing, pushing, poking, etc.) was relaxing no matter how hard. The massage sucked, it was painful and I coudn't really communicate, and in the end I wasn't even in the mood for a HJ. Sucked, next time I'm going to ask for a light oil massage and go straight to the fun, forget the stupid massage.
Haven't gotten around to Viet Dong but that's right down the street from Lido so it's convenient, that's next.
Anyone has more price points for BBBJ or if it's allowed (a bit weird since there are windows in the doors where people can look in).
As planned, I spent the month of February in Ho Chi Minh City in the Phu Nhuan District. Family home is there. Hard to get away from a wife and three sisters and one housemaid always watching and doing everything possible to tie me down. But, since I got my back hurt there in Vietnam during the way, my wife is a kind soul when it comes to massages. LOL Thank God for small favors. So, thereupon one afternoon I announced I was going for a massage due to severe back pain (true). Up on Nguyen Khem Street right next to the Saigon Co-op market is a Hotel called Thanh Nghia, and on the 6th floor is a Massage Parlor. That is where I went. Upon walking in the door of the hotel and heading toward the elevator, I spied a young lady sitting on a bench waiting for who-knows-what. As I pushed the elevator up-button, she jumped up and approached me, asking if I was going for a Massage. I replied in the affirmative and she immediately asked me if I would like her to give me a massage. I looked her over, and trust me, she was a treasure! So I agreed and up we went together.
Now! When we got upstairs, she started trying to convince the manager of the parlor to allow her to massage me! At first he wasnt buying it, and from my limited Vietnamese, I came to understand that she worked in the hotel, but not in the massage parlor! Oh my word! He finally agreed, and off to the showers I went. Upon entering the room, in she came. Her name was K. U. Thats all I will say. The massage was very professional, including walking on my back, then a very professional back snap! My back pain went away immediately, and I knew she had some professional massage training. That alone made it all worth while. It is amazing what being an American will do to women in Vietnam. I think this girl K. You wanted to marry me! Pity. She was more than beautiful, 27 years old and Madonna face and Model body.
On the flip, she started to play with Junior and the Boys (grin) and I immediately hit her up for full service. Noooooooo, hell no, she was afraid. So I hit her up for BJ, and she said no. But, she kept stopping massaging me to give me hugs! Over and over, she would stop massaging me and just hug me and whisper in my ear "Yeu them nhieu lam". I love you! Niceeeeeeee! Sweet! Finally, she agreed to give me what I wanted for 400, 000, and I gladly agreed, accepted, and received! My Gosh! For this girl, I would have agreed to let her do that in the middle of Le Loi Circle at noon, with the whole world doing a video!
When I was leaving, she came outside with me and begged me to come back! I agreed, whereupon I failed to get her home number. Stupid. Two days later, I went back and the whole staff of the Massage Parlor acted dumb and mute, and claimed not to know her! Imagine that! I went back 3 more times, but never saw her again. LOL My wife asked me how the massage was, and I told her the truth! I told her it was awesome! And effective! Then, she asked me if any extras were offered by the girl, and I told her that no, Thanh Nghia doesnt allow that, and that there is glass in the doors to stop any of that stuff going on. She is comfortable with me going there for a Massage now. 70, 000 for the massage, and any extras negotiated around 200, 000 to 400, 000 but don't count on getting the same as me. However, I will say that the girl staff there are very, very good looking! Have a shot at it fellas and let us know here how you find it!
For the times you want a a proper massage without the BBBJ, HJ, haggling or disapointment. I highly recommend Ngoc Anh Massage on 31/1 Nguyen Binh Khiem Street in Dist. 1. So come from Le Duan Street, get to the Zoo entrance then turn left.
120,000 VND for an hour massage. I usually tip 100,000 VND because I think the girls are trained properly and are genuinely skilled.
You get massaged in a partitioned cubicle. Probably about 6-7 cubicles per floor. It's been the best one I have experienced in Vietnam so far. I highly recommend the hot rock massage offered at not extra cost. They offer the plastic pouches for your valuables and use a piece of paper that you sign to cover the key hole for the locker.
So a pretty professional operation and quite popular with the locals and internationals as the staff do speak English.
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