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  1. John G Smith
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    Escorts vs. AMPs

    Mid-last year is when I started dabbling with Escorts more once they started advertising $80 "quickie" rates. At that point, escorts became competitive with even 40/40 R&T places.

    In terms of which is better, it depends what experience you're looking for. In terms of dollar value, escorts win hands down. In San Diego, the cheapest you can get F/S at an AMP is $150 total damage and up to $200-220, just for half hour sessions. With escorts, you can get F/S for $80-120 if they have "specials" and for $200 you can usually spend a whole hour. That said, here are some of the Pros, Cons, I've noticed with escorts.

    Pros
    - Cheaper (at least for now). Instead of a rushed tug from a 45 year-old Chinese lady who will barely lift up her shirt, for $80 you can have a quick CBJ/FS from a young naked coed.
    - Greater variety. You can explore outside the realm of middle-age asian ladies and try women from a variety of ethnicities young and old.
    - Pictures. Instead of relying on someone else's interpretation of beauty, you can look at pictures yourself and see what you're getting. Yeah there are a lot of fake photos (believe me I know), but if you stick to reviewed girls, this really isn't a problem.

    Cons
    - Harder to schedule. Escorts typically don't have set hours or days and many are notoriously unreliable. They can flake at the last minute or leave you sitting in the car for 15-20 minutes while they "get ready". As they say, always have a backup.
    - Very business-like or poor technique. Often times many of the cheaper escorts are very business-like even if they're friendly. You're not going to be treated like a King like you would at many of the Korean AMPs. Also you'll find quite a few younger escorts who can't/won't do a proper HJ due to inexperience or demand to have everything covered including the HJ. They just want to slap on the cover and get it over with. If you want a GFE escort, generally you'll have to pay more.
    - More of a paper trail so to speak. With escorts, you have to call or text message set things up. Even if you have a hobby phone, you have to make sure to keep it well-hidden. Also parking at a hotel is a little more blatant than parking by an AMP in a plaza. Also escorts who smoke, the smoke filled room could cling to your clothes.
    - Riskier. You can minimize your risk of course, but seeing an escort is inherently riskier than going to an AMP. With AMPs, LE targets the girls and the business. With escorts, LE targets the girls and the mongers. So you have to factor that in and always make sure the situation passes the smell test.

    For the budget, I think escorts are the way to go for now if you're looking for straight CBJs & F/S. But personally once I have a little more money to spend on the hobby, I'm going to try for agency AAMPs. They seem to merge some of the best elements of AMPs and Escorts.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  2. John_G_Smith
    Inactive

    Escorts vs. AMPs

    Mid-last year is when I started dabbling with Escorts more once they started advertising $80 "quickie" rates. At that point, escorts became competitive with even 40/40 R&T places.

    In terms of which is better, it depends what experience you're looking for. In terms of dollar value, escorts win hands down. In San Diego, the cheapest you can get F/S at an AMP is $150 total damage and up to $200-220, just for half hour sessions. With escorts, you can get F/S for $80-120 if they have "specials" and for $200 you can usually spend a whole hour. That said, here are some of the Pros, Cons, I've noticed with escorts.

    Pros
    - Cheaper (at least for now). Instead of a rushed tug from a 45 year-old Chinese lady who will barely lift up her shirt, for $80 you can have a quick CBJ/FS from a young naked coed.
    - Greater variety. You can explore outside the realm of middle-age asian ladies and try women from a variety of ethnicities young and old.
    - Pictures. Instead of relying on someone else's interpretation of beauty, you can look at pictures yourself and see what you're getting. Yeah there are a lot of fake photos (believe me I know), but if you stick to reviewed girls, this really isn't a problem.

    Cons
    - Harder to schedule. Escorts typically don't have set hours or days and many are notoriously unreliable. They can flake at the last minute or leave you sitting in the car for 15-20 minutes while they "get ready". As they say, always have a backup.
    - Very business-like or poor technique. Often times many of the cheaper escorts are very business-like even if they're friendly. You're not going to be treated like a King like you would at many of the Korean AMPs. Also you'll find quite a few younger escorts who can't/won't do a proper HJ due to inexperience or demand to have everything covered including the HJ. They just want to slap on the cover and get it over with. If you want a GFE escort, generally you'll have to pay more.
    - More of a paper trail so to speak. With escorts, you have to call or text message set things up. Even if you have a hobby phone, you have to make sure to keep it well-hidden. Also parking at a hotel is a little more blatant than parking by an AMP in a plaza. Also escorts who smoke, the smoke filled room could cling to your clothes.
    - Riskier. You can minimize your risk of course, but seeing an escort is inherently riskier than going to an AMP. With AMPs, LE targets the girls and the business. With escorts, LE targets the girls and the mongers. So you have to factor that in and always make sure the situation passes the smell test.

    For the budget, I think escorts are the way to go for now if you're looking for straight CBJs & F/S. But personally once I have a little more money to spend on the hobby, I'm going to try for agency AAMPs. They seem to merge some of the best elements of AMPs and Escorts.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  3. Iluvthickwomen
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    Love San Diego

    Well I made it back to the west coast last week. This is the 1st time I have had the time to really enjoy myself. I met this one the last time I was in town and had to repeat a session with her. Very lovely body and great CBJ skills.

    Had FS for $.
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  4. Iluvthickwomen
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    Love San Diego

    Well I made it back to the west coast last week. This is the 1st time I have had the time to really enjoy myself. I met this one the last time I was in town and had to repeat a session with her. Very lovely body and great CBJ skills.

    Had FS for $.
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    • Amp Guide
      Member

      Amp Prices

      You are right about the AMPs. I have been a fan of AMPs for a long time. Just love the pampering. If you are more clear to the girl up front you can get some great service. I personally like the pampering AMPs provide. A great table shower where she scrubs your body from head to toe is to die for. Like the Normal spa experience where all the women get to go. I know there are spas that cater for men but its nice to have a full experience at the end of the massage. To me for cost of a SW or Escort. Many of who just want a quick get you off and out of there, If you add a little more money you can get a lot more satisifying experience at a AMP. I have found in Portland that for 40 to 60 you can get a good BJ. However for 80 to 100 she will massage you for an hour or so maybe longer. I have a great personality. Treat the girls nice and ask if they are hungry or need anything. Often I have had them spend a couple hours on massageing me with either full service or a great BJ or HJ at the end. Bad part if that Portland has no AMPs. occassionally I find a girl who has a AAMP . if she has good service then its nice. However the True AMP with a table shower is hard to beat.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Amp_Guide
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      Amp Prices

      You are right about the AMPs. I have been a fan of AMPs for a long time. Just love the pampering. If you are more clear to the girl up front you can get some great service. I personally like the pampering AMPs provide. A great table shower where she scrubs your body from head to toe is to die for. Like the Normal spa experience where all the women get to go. I know there are spas that cater for men but its nice to have a full experience at the end of the massage. To me for cost of a SW or Escort. Many of who just want a quick get you off and out of there, If you add a little more money you can get a lot more satisifying experience at a AMP. I have found in Portland that for 40 to 60 you can get a good BJ. However for 80 to 100 she will massage you for an hour or so maybe longer. I have a great personality. Treat the girls nice and ask if they are hungry or need anything. Often I have had them spend a couple hours on massageing me with either full service or a great BJ or HJ at the end. Bad part if that Portland has no AMPs. occassionally I find a girl who has a AAMP . if she has good service then its nice. However the True AMP with a table shower is hard to beat.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Iluvthickwomen
      .Had FS for $.
      Wow.

      Contact info?
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Iluvthickwomen
      .Had FS for $.
      Wow.

      Contact info?
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member #2041
      Member

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Wow.

      Contact info?
      Nothing unusual about FS for $. That's the market rate for 30 minutes of FS not very attractive lady. Even some hotties can be found for that rate for 30 minutes, and pretty much most, even the most attractive will offer FS quickies at that rate now.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member_#2041
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Wow.

      Contact info?
      Nothing unusual about FS for $. That's the market rate for 30 minutes of FS not very attractive lady. Even some hotties can be found for that rate for 30 minutes, and pretty much most, even the most attractive will offer FS quickies at that rate now.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Diegoman619
      Inactive

      I'm unemployed and looking for some under the table work. Anyone know where I can find that? I still want my unemployment and extra so I can save to have my own business with personal fluffer. Ok maybe not but a man can dream!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Diegoman619
      Inactive

      I'm unemployed and looking for some under the table work. Anyone know where I can find that? I still want my unemployment and extra so I can save to have my own business with personal fluffer. Ok maybe not but a man can dream!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • BigFredDude
      Inactive

      A Different Approach

      I read a while back on the OC General Reports thread about posting an ad on CL's Adult Gigs board with a reminder that the end of the mont was approaching and that I might be able to help with the bills if a woman wanted to spend 20 minutes with me. I had given it a try a whil back and got a few pros and some odd non-pro responses, including a picture of the girl, her husband, and her kid and another attractive woman who said she doesn't do bjs, intercourse, or facials (what's left?). I gave it another try a month ago and got 3 replies from what appeared to be "normal" women. Two of them were difficult to contact, but the third sent a nice picture and after a couple of email messages back and forth, she gave me her phone #. We set up a time to meet and when I arrived, I was greeted by an extremely cute 20 y/o blond college student with a killer athletic-type body and a great personality. She invited me into her apartment, we chatted for a few minutes, went to her bedroom, began to kiss, and had a great time together. Seh now sends me a text invitation every week for a visit. The help is low enough that I can afford that frequency. One week I didn't have the full amount and she had me come by any way.

      I recently gave the CL ad another try while on a business trip. Got one response before it was flagged. This was from a gorgeous 24 y/o japanese/american law school grad, looking for work. I guess even attorneys are struggling in this economy. I picke her up near her home and we went out for drinks and had a great conversation. When we got into the car, I asked her if she wanted to come by my hotel and she agreed. We got there and had an amazing time together. A bit more expensive than my local girl, but I can't stop thinking about the time we had. I will definitely contact her when I go on my next trip.

      Happy and safe hunting!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • BigFredDude
      Inactive

      A Different Approach

      I read a while back on the OC General Reports thread about posting an ad on CL's Adult Gigs board with a reminder that the end of the mont was approaching and that I might be able to help with the bills if a woman wanted to spend 20 minutes with me. I had given it a try a whil back and got a few pros and some odd non-pro responses, including a picture of the girl, her husband, and her kid and another attractive woman who said she doesn't do bjs, intercourse, or facials (what's left?). I gave it another try a month ago and got 3 replies from what appeared to be "normal" women. Two of them were difficult to contact, but the third sent a nice picture and after a couple of email messages back and forth, she gave me her phone #. We set up a time to meet and when I arrived, I was greeted by an extremely cute 20 y/o blond college student with a killer athletic-type body and a great personality. She invited me into her apartment, we chatted for a few minutes, went to her bedroom, began to kiss, and had a great time together. Seh now sends me a text invitation every week for a visit. The help is low enough that I can afford that frequency. One week I didn't have the full amount and she had me come by any way.

      I recently gave the CL ad another try while on a business trip. Got one response before it was flagged. This was from a gorgeous 24 y/o japanese/american law school grad, looking for work. I guess even attorneys are struggling in this economy. I picke her up near her home and we went out for drinks and had a great conversation. When we got into the car, I asked her if she wanted to come by my hotel and she agreed. We got there and had an amazing time together. A bit more expensive than my local girl, but I can't stop thinking about the time we had. I will definitely contact her when I go on my next trip.

      Happy and safe hunting!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Jackie Ashe

      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Lascivious
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.

      Ummmmm... less pregnant?
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member #2041
      Member

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.
      She lost me with all of the drama she came up with last year when she was preggo and desperate - calling and texting me at all hours to set up an appointments, and failing that, could I just help her with a gift. If I wasn't single and self employed, Jackie would have put me in deep shit with all of the times she contacted me without being prompted. I'd rather see someone who's much better looking than Jackie Ashe and also has her shit together for $100 a half hour like Miss Unique. Saving $5 in gas is just a bonus.

      BTW, the $60 quickies aren't that big of a discount, she's been posting $75 quickies all week when she wasn't in East Bumfuck.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Jackie Ashe

      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Lascivious
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.

      Ummmmm... less pregnant?
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member_#2041
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      Jackie Ashe resurfaces in El Cajon with $60 quickies tonight. I can't make it out, but if you do, I'm curious to know how she looks.
      She lost me with all of the drama she came up with last year when she was preggo and desperate - calling and texting me at all hours to set up an appointments, and failing that, could I just help her with a gift. If I wasn't single and self employed, Jackie would have put me in deep shit with all of the times she contacted me without being prompted. I'd rather see someone who's much better looking than Jackie Ashe and also has her shit together for $100 a half hour like Miss Unique. Saving $5 in gas is just a bonus.

      BTW, the $60 quickies aren't that big of a discount, she's been posting $75 quickies all week when she wasn't in East Bumfuck.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Member #2041
      BTW, the $60 quickies aren't that big of a discount, she's been posting $75 quickies all week when she wasn't in East Bumfuck.
      I once fucked a Hooters girl in college, not because I liked her (or even because she was that hot), just so later in life I could say, "y'know, I fucked a Hooters girl once..."

      $60 to fuck a bonafide porn star... that's a pretty good price. Don't see many $60 QQ's these days, especially on somebody with relatively good reviews - it's like a two-for-one shot!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member #2041
      Member

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      I once fucked a Hooters girl in college, not because I liked her (or even because she was that hot), just so later in life I could say, "y'know, I fucked a Hooters girl once..."

      $60 to fuck a bonafide porn star... that's a pretty good price. Don't see many $60 QQ's these days, especially on somebody with relatively good reviews - it's like a two-for-one shot!
      Got her for $60 last year before her baby bump started showing (also for $80, $75, and $70 as she got progressively more desperate). Then she started calling and texting me with every imagineable excuse why she needed funds, including, seriously, that her dog got sick and she needed money for the vet, and then later, her dog died and she needed to pay for the funeral. After she supposedly buried the dog, her grandma got sick, and you can guess the next one. When in reality, she needed funds because she was pregnant.

      I'd never call her from a phone that's not an exclusively private hobby phone. Even though the fucking was good, the baggage it came with was definitely an issue.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Member #2041
      BTW, the $60 quickies aren't that big of a discount, she's been posting $75 quickies all week when she wasn't in East Bumfuck.
      I once fucked a Hooters girl in college, not because I liked her (or even because she was that hot), just so later in life I could say, "y'know, I fucked a Hooters girl once..."

      $60 to fuck a bonafide porn star... that's a pretty good price. Don't see many $60 QQ's these days, especially on somebody with relatively good reviews - it's like a two-for-one shot!
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Member_#2041
      Inactive

      Originally Posted by Timellissd
      I once fucked a Hooters girl in college, not because I liked her (or even because she was that hot), just so later in life I could say, "y'know, I fucked a Hooters girl once..."

      $60 to fuck a bonafide porn star... that's a pretty good price. Don't see many $60 QQ's these days, especially on somebody with relatively good reviews - it's like a two-for-one shot!
      Got her for $60 last year before her baby bump started showing (also for $80, $75, and $70 as she got progressively more desperate). Then she started calling and texting me with every imagineable excuse why she needed funds, including, seriously, that her dog got sick and she needed money for the vet, and then later, her dog died and she needed to pay for the funeral. After she supposedly buried the dog, her grandma got sick, and you can guess the next one. When in reality, she needed funds because she was pregnant.

      I'd never call her from a phone that's not an exclusively private hobby phone. Even though the fucking was good, the baggage it came with was definitely an issue.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Fucked HotSunny from SC ASP today. Very nice. In her 30's, can't beat the 100/hr rate, no rush, no drama, loves to fuck and will entertain any fantasy. Not a "10" on the hot scale but a solid 7, closer to an 8 on effort. Will do 2pops, no extra charge.

      Recommended.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Timellissd
      Inactive

      Fucked HotSunny from SC ASP today. Very nice. In her 30's, can't beat the 100/hr rate, no rush, no drama, loves to fuck and will entertain any fantasy. Not a "10" on the hot scale but a solid 7, closer to an 8 on effort. Will do 2pops, no extra charge.

      Recommended.
      Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
    • Chrishlosek7
      Inactive

      Fucked Sunny Dayz

      Had Sunny Dayz from Eros over today (she also posts on sd asp)

      Great fuck till it was over. Then she flipped out, called cops to the incall. Locked me up. Did not know where she was or anything. Like a light switch; said I had come in the room, forced myself on her, and raped her.

      Stay away
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    • Chrishlosek7
      Inactive

      Fucked Sunny Dayz

      Had Sunny Dayz from Eros over today (she also posts on sd asp)

      Great fuck till it was over. Then she flipped out, called cops to the incall. Locked me up. Did not know where she was or anything. Like a light switch; said I had come in the room, forced myself on her, and raped her.

      Stay away
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      • Joe Coodidge
        Member

        Originally Posted by Chrishlosek7
        Had Sunny Dayz from Eros over today (she also posts on sd asp)

        Great fuck till it was over. Then she flipped out, called cops to the incall. Locked me up. Did not know where she was or anything. Like a light switch; said I had come in the room, forced myself on her, and raped her.

        Stay away
        That is fucked up dude. Thanks for the warning...
        Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
      • Joe_Coodidge
        Inactive

        Originally Posted by Chrishlosek7
        Had Sunny Dayz from Eros over today (she also posts on sd asp)

        Great fuck till it was over. Then she flipped out, called cops to the incall. Locked me up. Did not know where she was or anything. Like a light switch; said I had come in the room, forced myself on her, and raped her.

        Stay away
        That is fucked up dude. Thanks for the warning...
        Posted 3 years ago | #Reply

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