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  1. Barba
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    Originally Posted by Tanglin
    This is a very good way to end up with a bullet in your head. You have no idea how things work in the Philippines.
    I think we just have different views. I do not want to go into specifics but I believe I do have a good idea about the Philippines in general and of Mindano in specific. I have it in my family so to speak. After running companies here and there over the world, I would say that Pinoys are, in my opinion, actually easier to predict than say in South America or some of the more orthodox Muslim countries. This is where things went from nothing to nasty in a very very short period of time, according to my experiences. However sad this makes me, the Philippines has been ass fucked for 400 years so I would put my money on this people being one of the most submissive and back bending ones in the world. I come to Phil for family and business, but I see the drunk "tourist" slobs behaving like pigs over and over again, and never do I see these reactions that I keep reading warnings about. This does not give anyone a free ticket to behave badly. On the contrary, we should act with pride and respect. But let us not create some fantasy story about how dangerous pinoys are compared to other males around the world. I recommend people to watch the news instead of making up these warning-scenarios, if they need the arousement to make life a bit more exciting.

    Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it. Just see how many Japanese and Korean assholes behave in Davao year after year. Or why not look at the American guy Mr R. D. Who now impregnated almost 10 girls in the south, with a total of 13 babies, without taking responsibility for them. According to one of his single mothers, the last is a 16 year old daughter of a hot shot politician. This scumbag is still walking after all these years. Living proof, my friends. My ex GFs lola is a politician and her two muscles monkeys have more than two confirmed kills each. 4500 PHP to have the trigger pulled BUT then comes the negotiation with the family. This can be very very costly if the family has some strings to pull.

    Do not get me wrong. I fly under the radar. Do not need any heat or politicians to bribe. I had one single death threat over the years in Phil, but this proved to be empty words by a delusional angry man. I am neither violent or in need to impress anyone with toughness, but should a guy use the mother of my baby as pouching bag, he'd better have the Abu Sayyaf to back his coward ass. When push comes to shove, I think any sane man would do this for his children.

    If you do not agree, we can just agree to disagree. I am sure Jon has been duly enlightened about at least my view of this.

    B
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  2. Tanglin
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    Originally Posted by GoodEnough
    Actually, he has a very good idea how things work here. I know this, since I know him and I know how successful he's been here.

    GE
    If you say so.

    But as a reality check, I ran this by my girlfriend this morning (Cebuano, and her ex-husband is in the Philippine military). Her first comment about the woman was,"She's crazy. She's trying to take advantage of that guy." Then I told her about the husband, the facebook messages, and the guy's desire to handle things mano a mano with the husband. Her comment was,"That's crazy. He'll get killed."
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  3. Mattrick
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    Go For It

    Originally Posted by Mc Don
    I have been invited to the weeding of one of my ex girls.
    Just a few months ago I was a groomsman in my ex-girlfriends wedding and it was a hoot! But it was not completely Filipino since her hubby is European and brought along his parents. Was relieved that I did not have to wear a suit and tie as the ceremony was on the beach. Rather was instructed to wear the traditional barong tagalog which was so comfortable! Easily secured three phone numbers including the brides' bombshell sister! Highly recommended!
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  4. Red_Kilt
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    Originally Posted by Mattrick
    Just a few months ago I was a groomsman in my ex-girlfriends wedding and it was a hoot! But it was not completely Filipino since her hubby is European and brought along his parents. Was relieved that I did not have to wear a suit and tie as the ceremony was on the beach. Rather was instructed to wear the traditional barong tagalog which was so comfortable! Easily secured three phone numbers including the brides' bombshell sister! Highly recommended!
    Mattrick's comments are well-made in the context of that particular wedding but I would think carefully about the whole deal if an ex-gf invites you to a pinoy wedding.

    I have been to many many weddings in both my wife's province and Manila, mainly as a ninong (VIP) to either her family friends or to my work colleagues and staff weddings. They are fun although they get a tad boring after a while.

    To the OP I would suggest that you ask yourself why are you invited?

    If everyone else there is pinoy, then you will stick out like a sore thumb and everyone will be asking why are you there and start putting 2 and 2 together? If the groom already knows about your past history with his wife and has approved you attending then it may be OK but it is still a bit weird to me.

    The other thing that worries me is that many pinoy guys get very aggro when they get a few beers into them and if they see you moving around hitting on the sexy chicks it might backfire on you.

    It is often difficult to work out exactly who belongs to who at these pinoy functions because the women all tend to congregate in their groups and the guys go to their circles drinking and laughing (about anything and nothing).

    If you understand the group and the culture and are well-known to them then I say enjoy and go for it.

    But if you are an unknown and an outsider to the group, be very careful how you present yourself and above all, be discreet.

    Just a few words of advice from a long-time expat ninong.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  5. Tanglin
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    Originally Posted by Barba
    I think we just have different views. I do not want to go into specifics but I believe I do have a good idea about the Philippines in general and of Mindano in specific. I have it in my family so to speak. After running companies here and there over the world, I would say that Pinoys are, in my opinion, actually easier to predict than say in South America or some of the more orthodox Muslim countries. This is where things went from nothing to nasty in a very very short period of time, according to my experiences. However sad this makes me, the Philippines has been ass fucked for 400 years so I would put my money on this people being one of the most submissive and back bending ones in the world. I come to Phil for family and business, but I see the drunk "tourist" slobs behaving like pigs over and over again, and never do I see these reactions that I keep reading warnings about. This does not give anyone a free ticket to behave badly. On the contrary, we should act with pride and respect. But let us not create some fantasy story about how dangerous pinoys are compared to other males around the world. I recommend people to watch the news instead of making up these warning-scenarios, if they need the arousement to make life a bit more exciting.

    Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it. Just see how many Japanese and Korean assholes behave in Davao year after year. Or why not look at the American guy Mr R. D. Who now impregnated almost 10 girls in the south, with a total of 13 babies, without taking responsibility for them. According to one of his single mothers, the last is a 16 year old daughter of a hot shot politician. This scumbag is still walking after all these years. Living proof, my friends. My ex GFs lola is a politician and her two muscles monkeys have more than two confirmed kills each. 4500 PHP to have the trigger pulled BUT then comes the negotiation with the family. This can be very very costly if the family has some strings to pull.

    Do not get me wrong. I fly under the radar. Do not need any heat or politicians to bribe. I had one single death threat over the years in Phil, but this proved to be empty words by a delusional angry man. I am neither violent or in need to impress anyone with toughness, but should a guy use the mother of my baby as pouching bag, he'd better have the Abu Sayyaf to back his coward ass. When push comes to shove, I think any sane man would do this for his children.

    If you do not agree, we can just agree to disagree. I am sure Jon has been duly enlightened about at least my view of this.

    B
    Thank you for the very detailed and respectful reply.

    It's obvious that my comment "You have no idea how things work in the Philippines" was wrong, and I apologize for making it.

    Where I think we still disagree (and a little friendly disagreement can make for an interesting discussion), is whether confronting the husband is a good idea and whether trying to be a part of the (potential) child's life is a good idea. You know firsthand how violent things can get in the Philippines, and from my perspective I don't see much good coming from such a confrontation, but I do see a lot of potential bad. I do appreciate the sentiment that any man who would beat the mother of my children deserves the same or worse, and I also appreciate that it's nice that a guy actually wants to take care of a child he fathered. I too have seen guys father child after child and abandon the mothers and the children. Still, this child, if in fact she's pregnant, is the product of a very brief affair between two married people, both of whom want to keep their own families intact (or, at least, that's what it sounds like). Also, taking the position of woman's husband, I'd think Mr Guoren better be the one to bring the Abu Sayyaf with him if he thinks he can come into my life after fucking my wife. The fact that he got her pregnant doesn't give him any rights, regardless of how big he thinks his balls are. Yes, some Filipino men back down quickly and meekly give in to a shitty situation. But some don't. Personally, I don't think I'd risk my life trying to find out.

    What do you think is a "best case" scenario here? Assume for a moment that she really is pregnant and he really is the father. Can you honestly see any good outcome for Mr Guoren, his family, the woman and her family or the child if he tries to stay involved in the child's life?
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  6. Fast_Buck_Artist
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    Originally Posted by Barba
    Loosing face is a factor in the Philippines for sure, but people eat shit on a daily basis from "the masters", without doing anything about it.
    Yes, in my experience in living in PI the pinoys are relatively peaceful and avoid direct confrontations. Pocket knives (balisong) are commonly carried in the provinces but you are not likely to see one pointed at you unless you threaten the life of the owner. Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.

    If you get into an argument over a woman with her ex-husband / ex-boyfriend, happened to me twice, both times the guy swallowed his pride and walked away. They have more to fear from you then you have to fear from them. Money is strength here, it buys muscle and firepower, and you can get more than they can.

    Now if you get involved in a dispute over land or assets, thats a threat to be taken seriously. Assasinations over asset ownership are very common.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  7. Pute_Nut
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    Originally Posted by Fast Buck Artist
    Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.
    That may be so, but among criminals they are quite common. Lots of gun incidents in Phils. Often paltik / sumpaks are being used. Checking a few hospital blotters, I was surprised to see very frequent gun use, especially among "bad boys". I had expected some reluctancy to use them, in favor of the knives, screwdrivers etc many pinoys routinely carry.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  8. GoodEnough
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    Guns and' Stuff

    There was an article in the Inquirer yesterday or the day before, citing a government estimate of more than a million "loose" firearms in the country. This was written in the context of a recently (peacefully) resolved kidnapping by a gang led by a 17 year old. Many, if not most of the firearms, including some fairly heavy weaponry, came originally (at least in Mindanao) from the national government, which armed citizen militias, such as those operated with impunity by the Ampatuans, as a check against the NPA, the Abu Sayyaff, the MILF and other violence-prone gangs. Of course this backfired since the militias promptly turned into private armies for sale to the highest bidder or loyal to a particular clan.

    While this isn't good news by any means, given the utter lack of political will displayed by the government to disarm these private armies, it also doesn't mean that the average citizen is armed with a gun, as is often the case in the US, for example. I don't have the statistics, but I would imagine that hand gun deaths as a percentage of all un-natural deaths here are a far smaller percentage than they are in the United States, as are, I imagine, the incidences of armed robbery and non-fatal assaults with guns.

    GE
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  9. Hairy_Wonder
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    Babies and visitation

    I am the father of 2 children by 2 different Filipinas. I support each of them with monthly remittance. I do keep in contact with them in order to make sure the children are being taken care of. However, both relationships ended badly, and I have no intention of ever going near either of these girls, or the areas where they live. When I do travel to the Philippines, I will not be announcing my trip on Facebook, or any other site that I think they might be checking. The brothers of 1 of the girls I know to be quite dangerous. One (a drug addict) tried to extort money from his sister because she was with me. When she refused to give him any money, he beat her in front of her mother and sisters. Of course, this all happened when I was out of the country, and I told her that I would cut his balls off and stuff them down his throat if I ever saw him again. To which she replied,"Don't worry. I can pay to have him killed if I want to." She told me about many killings her family was involved in in the past. I have no reason to doubt what she told me. But this is the reason I will not go near her or her family. Even if I were to pay a security force for protection while I was visiting my child, I tend to think that Filipinos will side with Filipinos, regardless of the money. Anytime I am in a foreign country, I feel that the locals have the upper hand in a conflict. The law will always take the side of a local over a "tourist".

    The story posted earlier of the 16 year old gf having her 76 year old bf killed off for only 4500 PHP shows just how easy it can be done. Granted, that is a very large amount of money for most Filipinos. But they know how to get the money if they really want it.

    With all this being said, I want to also state that I don't feel the Philippines is any more dangerous than any other country. I would be more worried about walking the streets of New York City, than those of Manila. One never knows when or where they will run into a life threatening situation. You just have to keep aware of your surroundings at all times, and know when to get away (and stay away) from a bad situation.

    HW
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  10. Hairy_Wonder
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    DIA = Fresh / Virgin?

    Originally Posted by Chocha Monger
    The irony is that many mongers seek them [DIA girls] out precisely due to the illusion of getting tight "fresh" pussy for some old fashioned raw dogging.
    One DIA contact that I regularly correspond with is very open in our discussions about sex, whether it is me having sex with her or other girls. Once, she asked me if I would like her to find virgins for me to fuck. Of course, I not only said yes, but that I would want her to be involved as well, to make it a 3 some. I figure she could use her experience to teach the virgin how to properly please me. Her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. This shocked me, and I asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. She told me that most Filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age. She even stated that she could not be sure that her own daughter, who will be 12 this year, is still a virgin. I told her that I would not have sex with any girl that could not show proof of being over 18, regardless of how her family felt about it. She stated that it would be almost impossible to find a virgin that was 18 or older, even in the remote provinces.

    I will still attempt to fuck many of the DIA girls that have contacted me. I won't assume that they are virgins, or even fresh. But maybe they will be not as used and hardened at the pay for play girls.

    HW
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  11. Chocha_Monger
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    Originally Posted by Hairy Wonder
    One DIA contact that I regularly correspond with is very open in our discussions about sex, whether it is me having sex with her or other girls. Once, she asked me if I would like her to find virgins for me to fuck. Of course, I not only said yes, but that I would want her to be involved as well, to make it a 3 some. I figure she could use her experience to teach the virgin how to properly please me. Her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. This shocked me, and I asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. She told me that most Filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age. She even stated that she could not be sure that her own daughter, who will be 12 this year, is still a virgin. I told her that I would not have sex with any girl that could not show proof of being over 18, regardless of how her family felt about it. She stated that it would be almost impossible to find a virgin that was 18 or older, even in the remote provinces.

    I will still attempt to fuck many of the DIA girls that have contacted me. I won't assume that they are virgins, or even fresh. But maybe they will be not as used and hardened at the pay for play girls.

    HW
    Your girlfriend's story is quite true. I have heard the same thing before. In fact, the term 'cherry puday' in some areas refers to the under aged. One should be especially wary of anyone offering virgins out in the province areas. If you date women in their mid-twenties you'll notice that the locals hardly pay them any mind even when they're stunners. They consider them old, used and past their prime. Even the girls themselves will say, 'I am already old' at 24 yrs of age. By the time they're in their late twenties and early thirties it is not unusual to heard friends and family addressing them in with terms of respect we usually reserve for people in their sixties.

    As for DIA girls being any less hardened than pros, some are pros. Others are more hardened and calculating than pros. There are some nice ones getting into the game but you have to catch them before the swarm of mongers descend upon them and fuck their souls out of them. I will usually ask them which bar they work in. Sometimes they reply, 'How did you know I work in a bar? '
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  12. Barba
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    Originally Posted by Tanglin
    What do you think is a "best case" scenario here? Assume for a moment that she really is pregnant and he really is the father. Can you honestly see any good outcome for Mr Guoren, his family, the woman and her family or the child if he tries to stay involved in the child's life?
    Hmmmm. I do not value marriage so high, so I am very subjective. For me, the only thing that really matters are my kids. The rest are distant seconds. I will take any shit in the world to keep them happy, and I would walk over anyone to protect them. I would shoot myself without hesitation if it was them or me. I could not live with the knowledge that my child might get the same treatment as this woman. But I might be extremely focused on my kids. For me women come and go. Offspring represents life and future.

    If someone fucked my wife, I would not care that much. Just a reason to move on perhaps, but I would most likely not even do that. I am not so jealous as a person nowadays and I do it all the time my self. To have it in ones face is not so comfortable, but it is sex and sex is great, so why deny her that as long as she protects herself.

    H
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  13. Fast_Buck_Artist
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    Originally Posted by Hairy Wonder
    Her response was that she would have to find some 12 or 13 year old girls that the families would allow to fuck me. This shocked me, and I asked her why she would bring such young girls to me. She told me that most Filipinas loose their virginity by the time they are at that age.
    Are you sure you were chatting with a woman and not a police officer? .

    Baiting pedos via internet chat is a common trap.

    Virgins. Lots of them here of all ages, personally know 5 virgins in the 22-35 age group, finding one will not be any trouble, the laziest way is probably going to one of the girly bars and ask the mamasan for a "cherry girl", they often have a few in stock.
    Posted 3 years ago | #Reply
  14. Pinaypounder
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    Virgin, why?

    What possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. I have met a couple on DIA and the last think I would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. I could take a guess as to why but I won't.

    A virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and I can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. Plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell I can get that at home.

    Perhaps I am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

    To me this is akin to an underage and I prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the Phils are full of them.

    I find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

    A wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  15. Robbaf
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    Originally Posted by Pinaypounder
    What possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. I have met a couple on DIA and the last think I would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. I could take a guess as to why but I won't.

    A virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and I can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. Plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell I can get that at home.

    Perhaps I am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

    To me this is akin to an underage and I prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the Phils are full of them.

    I find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

    A wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.
    That is because most are strawberries and not cherries. Meaning that they have fucked a local, but not a foreigner. So they want to sell the strawberry as a cherry.

    Robb
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  16. Robbaf
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    Originally Posted by Fast Buck Artist
    Yes, in my experience in living in PI the pinoys are relatively peaceful and avoid direct confrontations. Pocket knives (balisong) are commonly carried in the provinces but you are not likely to see one pointed at you unless you threaten the life of the owner. Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.

    If you get into an argument over a woman with her ex-husband / ex-boyfriend, happened to me twice, both times the guy swallowed his pride and walked away. They have more to fear from you then you have to fear from them. Money is strength here, it buys muscle and firepower, and you can get more than they can.

    Now if you get involved in a dispute over land or assets, thats a threat to be taken seriously. Assasinations over asset ownership are very common.
    You mean legal firearms are hard to get? Illegal firearms can be purchased for 2000P for a homemade gun.

    I am shocked you posted that twice locals swallowed their pride and walked away, most walk away and go get a bolo (machete) and come back. Causing a local to lose face will get you in a world of hurt. Most locals have NO fear of foreigners and if you take away their wife or girlfriend you could end up in a world of hurt. As far as ex-husband goes I would be amazed if it was her ex, as there is no divorce in the Philippines, only annulment and it is very expensive and takes a long time. Next month I will have lived and worked here for the last four years and I have been coming to the Philippines a long time (first visit was 1986) and I still learn something new everyday.

    As I posted before, I was in a local Filipino bar in 2005 and one GRO was sitting with another local and her boyfriend came into the bar and shot her and the guy beside her and turn around and walked out.

    Robb
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  17. Radical_Guy
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    A Virgin Can Be HOT

    Originally Posted by Pinaypounder
    What possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. I have met a couple on DIA and the last think I would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. I could take a guess as to why but I won't.

    A virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and I can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. Plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell I can get that at home.

    Perhaps I am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

    To me this is akin to an underage and I prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the Phils are full of them.

    I find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

    A wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.
    I met my now-wife, Vangie. 7 years ago, when she was an 18-year-old virgin. We chatted online, and spoke on the phone, when she was still 17, but when I got to her town in the provinces a few months later, she had just turned 18.

    There was only one decent hotel in town, and Vangie insisted on staying with me, probably because she didn't want me prowling around for other girls. Well, she was definitely a virgin. The first few nights, I did some DATY on her, and she was thrilled. Her hymen was intact, and she was so tight, I couldn't even get my finger in. She wanted me to take her virginity, but it just wouldn't go in, probably because she was nervous and scared.

    On the fourth night, after I had given Vangie DATY for about 30 minutes, I eased myself inside her, a centimeter at a time, and I could literally feel a "pop" as her hymen gave way (and she shrieked in pain) , and I was balls-deep in her. I just stayed inside for awhile, and gradually started moving until I pulled out and came.

    We took a break the next day and night, but when Vangie made love to me the following day, she was really surprised when it no longer hurt. Almost immediately, she couldn't get enough, like a light switch went on! I was like a new toy to her, and suddenly she wanted to fuck in the morning, in the day, and at night. I couldn't believe it.

    Vangie is still the same way after 7 years, and definitely has the higher sex drive of the two of us. I still visit this site for entertainment, though my mongering days are over.

    Yes, deflowering a virgin can be a bit of work, but there's something really special and exciting about being the first.

    RG
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  18. Chocha_Monger
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    Originally Posted by Pinaypounder
    What possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. I have met a couple on DIA and the last think I would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. I could take a guess as to why but I won't.

    A virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and I can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. Plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell I can get that at home.

    Perhaps I am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

    To me this is akin to an underage and I prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the Phils are full of them.

    I find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

    A wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.
    Well said Robbaf! Anyone chatting with a DIA girl claiming to be a virgin should realize that they're being sold a fraudulent bill of goods. DIA virgins are like the car dealer's 'certified pre-owned' cars. They may have been lightly used but used nonetheless. Filipinas have very flexible definitions of virginity. They may be virgin to foreign cock, or they might only be virgin to your cock specifically. A lot of these girls are remarkably tight and routinely stain a bit upon being penetrated by anything slightly more formidable than a local trouser snake. Throw in some theatrics and an ouch here and there most foreigners, having never fucked a virgin, would never know the difference. Why do they go through the trouble of selling you a secondhand cherry? Well, to inflate your ego and get you thinking with the small head instead of the big one. Now she can claim you ruined her by popping her cherry and you must marry her or at least deal with her on an open wallet policy since no local will have her now. I suppose there is no harm in the illusion as long as you don't open the wallet too wide.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  19. Hairy_Wonder
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    I had a gf that claimed and felt very much like a virgin the first time we had sex. If she wasn't a virgin, she was a very good actress, and extremely tight. I didn't feel the pop, as RG reported. But most of what he wrote was the same for me. I thoroughly enjoyed teaching her many different positions and techniques. She learned them all very well and became a class A nympho! It was nice having her around. When I would return home from work, she would be there waiting, fresh out of the shower, in a sexy, see through nighty, ready for action. She would strip me down and immediately do a BBBJ until I CIM. I miss those days. But I won't have a live in again, because that relationship turned into something very similar to a marriage. That's something I don't want to be in again.

    HW
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  20. Hairy_Wonder
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    Originally Posted by Fast Buck Artist
    Are you sure you were chatting with a woman and not a police officer?
    If she was a cop, she did a pretty convincing job of masturbating on cam for me!
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  21. Barba
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    I respect everyones opinion but are a bit surprised how generic statements people make on the topic of virginity here. It seems to be quite a topic, especially for the no-sayers.

    I like to extrapolate things to make my own reasoning clear. Let us say that there is a generic way for a doctor to diagnose if a girl is in fact a virgin. It is up to everyone to decide if the think such a methodology exists. Humans can become doctors; hence they can learn this methodology IF it exists.

    But maybe it is this and the outer space that is yet to be explored? Could perhaps render me the Nobel price even, if I manage to describe this process.

    The same extrapolation goes for identifying lies by studying communication patterns, etc. These pinays are not the hardest nuts to crack IMHO.

    Just because some of the sales men / women are selling a fake product, does not make the buyers brain dead. One can not make general statements based on ones limited success or experience in an area. Not all the girls even on DIA has had sex. So of course there is all types on that web page.

    On the pop: read up! The info is out there.

    How can anyone have opinions on this topic? What good are opinions really apart from feeding that little weak baby called ego? Moral high ground is nothing but opinions. Women like to take moral high grounds for all sorts of reasons, mainly because of their lack of harmony, self esteem and balance, but to find that here on cityxguide.com amongst hard core man working girls? Surprisingly indeed.

    I will not debate this topic because in essence I think it is just opinions, but I say each to his own. Keep fucking virgins if you feel like it.

    Last trip I had a funny incident relating to the definition of virginity. Me and a fellow monger met up with four cuties for some food and karaoke. As it happens this place has short term rooms for 300 PHP in the proximity. Said and done, me and a rather well busted young girl sneaks of to exchange bodily fluids and money. When penetrating her, she is extremely tight. Tighter than normal and I ask her "are you sure that you are not a virgin". Her response is "no no I am not, I promise". I fuck her some more and she is in pain, but she endures. Once again I ask, and she denies. Does not take long before her little honey cave squeeze the juices out of me and while talking afterwards I want to find out what kind of micro dick she had. She tells me "my boy friend is a girl. A lesbian. He fucks me with her finger." We dwell on this topic for a while and the fact that one normally refers to loosing the virginity as having a dick in the fanny, but she insists that her lesbian "boyfriend" is the one that took her cherry, and who am I to argue.

    Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.

    /B
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  22. Questor55
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    Definition of paradise

    Imagine a land where, stepping off the plane, you undergo a miraculous transformation.

    Suddenly, you are twenty years younger and twenty pounds lighter. Your jokes have never been funnier.

    Your charm never so evident. You are Gwapo and desired by countless nubile young maidens.

    Your sexual prowess quotient rises exponentially. Ah, if such a paradise could exist!
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  23. Mc_Don
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    Originally Posted by Barba
    Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.

    /B
    LOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".
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  24. David_33
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    I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.

    Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed.
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  25. Sammon
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    Originally Posted by David_33
    I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.

    Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed.
    I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough. But with a couple of fingers you can make sure. Ofcourse with a dick you are 100% sure.

    Majority of the willing girls loose their virginity like anywhere else in the world. With their boyfriends. I had my first virgin when I was 14 years old and she was 15. It just happened because her whole family went to attend a wedding leaving her home alone for some reason.

    In Phi socoety the whole family sleeps together on the floor. It is impossible to have sex. But if the uncle catches her alone and if she is willing it can happen. Ofcourse the girls will never admit these things. One my DIA conquests was a virgin. When she told her mother, her mother got really angry, she said.

    In very conservative family it is impossible for many girls to have the time or the situation to have sex.

    I am sure there are many real virgins among the " cherry " girls in AC.

    Having a virgin is definitely fun. The fun is you get to teach her how to have fun besides the feeling that you are the first. Many a times bleeding can occur every time having sex. One Thai virgin I had bled every time although not as much as in the begining.

    I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  26. David_33
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    Originally Posted by Sammon
    I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough.
    Mine is. She wasn't tall.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  27. Radical_Guy
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    Originally Posted by Sammon
    I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.
    Back in my mongering days, I found that many girls will give you their virginity for simply the "hope" of winning your heart. I didn't feel it necessary to tell a girl that I ONLY wanted sex, even if that was in my mind. I always felt that I could honestly tell a girl that I could make no promises, but who knows where things could lead?

    Thus, many girls willingly gave me their cherry even though I made no promises, as long as I didn't completely kill the *possibility* that things could develop into marriage. Many were quite disappointed when things didn't develop as they hoped or expected, but I don't feel guilty because that was what I told Vangie, whom I ultimately fell in love with and married.

    RG
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  28. Barba
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    Originally Posted by Mc Don
    LOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".
    I did in fact know this before she became my "friend". I assured her several times that it was totally OK. This is one of the three friends that I fucked (one preggo) during 2010 and 2011. Sometimes it pays off to be persistent and nice continuously. I work behind my monitors so I have plenty of time to chit chat. Never fill a girls head with lies. Tell them the slightly bended truth and of course treat them for some fun. This girl was happy to giver her in-proper cherry to me as long as I was nice to her and kept in touch also after the deed was done. Why not. She is a cool girl. Youth politician in the province and told me all about rigging elections and such. Now she met an American that seems to be in love, so I am left with the two teen friends. But one snatched a phone from me and the other is pregnant with Davaos most jealous man, so poor Barba better focus on other challenges in May.

    /B
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  29. D_Cups
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    Wow, great story, RG. Seriously, thanks for sharing.

    Originally Posted by Radical Guy
    I met my now-wife, Vangie. 7 years ago, when she was an 18-year-old virgin. We chatted online, and spoke on the phone, when she was still 17, but when I got to her town in the provinces a few months later, she had just turned 18.

    There was only one decent hotel in town, and Vangie insisted on staying with me, probably because she didn't want me prowling around for other girls. Well, she was definitely a virgin. The first few nights, I did some DATY on her, and she was thrilled. Her hymen was intact, and she was so tight, I couldn't even get my finger in. She wanted me to take her virginity, but it just wouldn't go in, probably because she was nervous and scared.

    On the fourth night, after I had given Vangie DATY for about 30 minutes, I eased myself inside her, a centimeter at a time, and I could literally feel a "pop" as her hymen gave way (and she shrieked in pain) , and I was balls-deep in her. I just stayed inside for awhile, and gradually started moving until I pulled out and came.

    We took a break the next day and night, but when Vangie made love to me the following day, she was really surprised when it no longer hurt. Almost immediately, she couldn't get enough, like a light switch went on! I was like a new toy to her, and suddenly she wanted to fuck in the morning, in the day, and at night. I couldn't believe it.

    Vangie is still the same way after 7 years, and definitely has the higher sex drive of the two of us. I still visit this site for entertainment, though my mongering days are over.

    Yes, deflowering a virgin can be a bit of work, but there's something really special and exciting about being the first.

    RG
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  30. Questor55
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    Free lancers and economics

    It isn't surprising that there are many free lancers in the major centers. It's astonishing that there are not so many more! Jobs are hard to find. Many are 'contract' jobs meaning after 5 to 6 months the job ends. Fast food outlets.

    Wages start at only 165 pesos per day. So called 'good jobs' pay about 285 pesos (minimum wage). Most college grads are working for under 300 pesos a day.

    A free lancer at Mango Square in Cebu is probably asking 1000-1500 ST. So for a short session, close to one week's pay! If she is desperate for cash today, then negotiating may lower the price. Still, comparing the vast discrepancy.

    Between hours worked, plus extra hours spent commuting to a 'nothing' job, to one of enjoying the night life, wearing fashionable clothes, and affording expensive mobile phones, it seems to be an attractive job option.

    Most younger Filipinas live with their families and the shame of being branded a 'Bad Girl' stops many from risking their reputations.

    From an economic perspective, free lancing seems to be an attractive option.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply

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