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  1. Mock_A_Bee
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    You take a big risk

    Originally Posted by ShinichiOta
    I'm staying in Shanghai this week in Pudong, and swarming outside my hotel every night are a bunch of men and women offering to take me to the "Ladies Sauna", with 300 RMB FS. I assume this is a scam, but if by some miracle it isn't, and someone knows the real deal about this, I'd greatly appreciate any information!
    Anyone who goes with a tout is a fool!. No matter what they say or what price they advertise, they can't be trusted. This has been said on this forum pretty much FOREVER.

    The chances of getting set up is very high, and nearly impossible to figure out if you are being set up before it is too late. You risk physical harm if you don't empty your wallet. Some people on this forum have even reported being strong armed into pulling money out of an ATM.

    This goes for the Tea House Scam, the Buy me a beer Scam, the Sauna Scam, the Hottie for the too good to be true price Scam, the I am Learning English will you practice with me Scam, the I am an Art Student come see my artwork Scam, etc. You name it, it has been used as a line to draw you to a place where thugs will threaten to beat the living crap out of you. It simply isn't worth the risk. There are way too many safe options for pros not to mention freebies, to bother with the risk of a tout.

    If you don't heed this advice, I hate to say it but you deserve what you get.

    MAB
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  2. Fuzimiao
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    Wise advice from Mock a Bee

    Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!

    M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?

    Fz
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  3. Bionicman
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    Originally Posted by Fuzimiao
    Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!

    M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?

    Fz
    Most likely there were other two hidden somewhere, coming out pretending to be officers and you were about to buy important military items. You can well imagine the rest of the script
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  4. Levitian
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    Originally Posted by Mock A Bee
    Anyone who goes with a tout is a fool. No matter what they say or what price they advertise, they can't be trusted. This has been said on this forum pretty much FOREVER.

    If you don't heed this advice, I hate to say it but you deserve what you get.

    MAB
    AMEN!

    Levitian
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  5. EsotericHuangpu
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    Originally Posted by G Haribo
    Here are my my reports about the New Waves and Sacrosa sauna I visited recently.

    Sacrosa.

    When I arrived, I asked for my favorite #298, but apparently she left already, so I asked for #267, who was available. #267 gives one of the best BBJ in the city. So for those who like BBJ, she's the one. There was no need to wait, and she took me straight to the room. Inside the room, she told me that next time, I have to tell her number first at the reception, so she can get an additional 50RMB for the session.

    Well, as always, the session with her was enthusiastic, and the BBJ a heaven. I finished her 2 times and paid the bill satisfied.

    Number #298.

    Looks = 8.

    Boobs = 9 (but silicon)

    FS = 7.

    BBJ = 10.

    DFK = 7.

    GF = 8

    Overall = 8.

    New Wave.

    I went there on 30 April and 1st May in the afternoon. Not much customers, so much more choice.

    First day, I chose #939 from Dongbei. A pretty face, with pretty body, only the boobs were a bit small. Here's the result:

    Number #939 (from Dongbei)

    Looks = 8.

    Boobs = 6.

    FS = 7.

    BBJ = 7.

    DFK = Not allowed.

    GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)

    Overall = 7.

    Feeling horny, I decided to go again on the 2nd day. This time, the choice was even bigger. I chose #982 from Hunan. I asked her the reason why there are not many customers, she replied that all guys are spending time with their family. Hehehe.

    The session was good, but a bit mechanical. No kissing unfortunately.

    Number #982 (from Hunan)

    Looks = 7.

    Boobs = 6.

    FS = 7.

    BBJ = 7.

    DFK = Not allowed.

    GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)

    Overall = 7.

    She had a scare on her belly, and this kind of calm me down, as I don't really like doing it with a girl who is a mother.

    Overally, I still prefer my girl at Sacrosa, who is more girl friendly, but the choice is bigger at the New Wave.

    Anyone to recommend?
    Is the heavenly BBBJ from #298 or #267? (You say one, but in the stats list the other)
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  6. G_Haribo
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    Originally Posted by EsotericHuangpu
    Is the heavenly BBBJ from #298 or #267? (You say one, but in the stats list the other)
    Sorry, it's 267 who give one of the best BBJ. 298 is not there anymore.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  7. Chris_Wang
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    I've heard of 'them all. Now which is most highly recommended?

    First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.

    I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.

    Fishbowl, longtime, etc.

    I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.

    For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.

    For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.

    Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?

    Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  8. Atapchee
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    My 2 cents

    When I go to Shanghai, which is where I am now.

    Hotel: Donghu Hotel on Donghu Lu, just off Huaihai Lu. Walking distnace to restaurants, subway, and every cabbie knows where it is. Not a very luxurious place.

    Saunas: Been to 999 and Sacrosa. 999 will accept credit cards is about 30rmb cab ride from the hotel. Sacrosa is accessible via subway. Most saunas are about the same. Same service model, about the same price. Just need to get lucky with your choice.

    Bars: Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.

    Where in Taiwan are you?

    Originally Posted by Chris Wang
    First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.

    I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.

    Fishbowl, longtime, etc.

    I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.

    For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.

    For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.

    Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?

    Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  9. Dirknblane
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    Welcome to shanghai

    Long term is Manhattan if you like pho or adobo.

    999 is fish bowl, sacrosa is lineup like CP. I like both places but sacrosa has happy hour special, finish before 7 and it's less than 600 rmb.

    There are a lot of bbs too, sometimes a fun way to play.

    Shanghai is a great place. The bars and clubs are great places to hook up.

    Originally Posted by Chris Wang
    First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.

    I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.

    Fishbowl, longtime, etc.

    I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.

    For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.

    For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.

    Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?

    Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  10. Bad_Boy_Billy
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    Correct

    Originally Posted by Atapchee
    Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.
    Atapchee you are 100% correct with Manhattan being identical to Ipanema. Except in Manhattan you realy really only have Viets and Flips. Occasionally a Thai or 2 and a few Cambos.

    IMHO Manhattan not a patch on Ipanema. Malones is just a shithole IMHO. Old hagged ho's. Ok for a drink. Band good there. But never seen a decent WG in there EVER.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  11. Ixtlan
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    Scams

    Originally Posted by Fuzimiao
    Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!

    M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?

    Fz
    The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.

    That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.

    Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.

    In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.

    Hope this helps.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  12. Fuzimiao
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    Scam?

    Originally Posted by Ixtlan
    The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.

    That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.

    Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.

    In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.

    Hope this helps.
    I must confess, I didn't take these guys seriously, I assumed they were simply trying to sell cheap fake rubbish at a fancy price, (ever been offerred a "Cannon" camera outfit or "Nokio" phone!). The vehicle was definitely not an official vehicle, and they were also trying to talk to Chinese drivers. That said, there were four guys spending thier time on this, and using a seemingly brand new vehicle.

    We are cautious of scams on foreigners, but we are not alone! In my experience Chinese people are very gullible, take a bus tour to anywhere to see the sales patter, be it tea, jade, or silk!
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  13. Chris_Wang
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    Originally Posted by Atapchee
    When I go to Shanghai, which is where I am now.

    Hotel: Donghu Hotel on Donghu Lu, just off Huaihai Lu. Walking distnace to restaurants, subway, and every cabbie knows where it is. Not a very luxurious place.

    Saunas: Been to 999 and Sacrosa. 999 will accept credit cards is about 30rmb cab ride from the hotel. Sacrosa is accessible via subway. Most saunas are about the same. Same service model, about the same price. Just need to get lucky with your choice.

    Bars: Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.

    Where in Taiwan are you?
    I'm in Taichung, but I work in Chang-Hua. Central Taiwan is my crib.

    I'll be going to the international convention center. I need to find a hotel that will allow me to go there and monger conveniently at the same time if possible. Any ideas?

    Thank you in advance.

    Chris Wang
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  14. Johnps
    Inactive

    Malone

    Yesterday evening raid at Malones at about 23:30. All the Phil girls were taken out and have to show their passports. Also some guys sitting with girls had to fill in a kind of form.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  15. Baaadrabbit
    Inactive

    PM'ing

    Originally Posted by Chris Wang
    But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.
    Hi Chris, I was trying to find out how to send you a private message, but I can't find any way. I'm a Taipeier who frequently travels to China. Thought we might be in Shanghai about the same time, and I sometimes am down south. Seems this is an unorthodox way to contact you. Maybe you can find a way to send me a PM?
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  16. Shaun_Palmer
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    I've heard that manhattan has been raided as well the past few days and some viet girls arrested.

    Any infos about this?
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  17. Chris_Wang
    Inactive

    Originally Posted by Baaadrabbit
    Hi Chris, I was trying to find out how to send you a private message, but I can't find any way. I'm a Taipeier who frequently travels to China. Thought we might be in Shanghai about the same time, and I sometimes am down south. Seems this is an unorthodox way to contact you. Maybe you can find a way to send me a PM?
    You are a regular member. Unless you've paid for your membership, you won't be able to send or receive pm.

    I'm there for the kitchen and bathroom exhibition going on there at the New expo center.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  18. Atapchee
    Inactive

    Bi Li Hu Sauna-Gubei

    In the Gubei area, I tried Bi Li Hu sauna, per the recommendation of another member. It's is located one block from the intersectionon Hongbaoshi Road and Gubei Road. Next to it are a Subway sandwich shop and 7-11. During theday, the fee is 630rmb.

    Standard sauna routine. It's only has beds in the room, no wet room. Service from 883 was good but had a lot of rules.

    It's good offering if you are in the Hongqiao area but not really worth it if you have to trek out there.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  19. Carage
    Inactive

    Originally Posted by Chris Wang
    I'm in Taichung, but I work in Chang-Hua. Central Taiwan is my crib.

    I'll be going to the international convention center. I need to find a hotel that will allow me to go there and monger conveniently at the same time if possible. Any ideas?

    Thank you in advance.

    Chris Wang
    That place sounds so far away from the fun.

    There are a few saunas in the area, but all would require a ride.

    Southern (Nangfang Sangna Hui Suo) Sauna Club might be the closest.

    You could also try your luck at Yao Hong (originally known as Ji Yuan 3) , but I have no clue if they are still open.

    Central Taiwan huh? Everyone seems to be really excited when they talk about Golden Jaguar in Taichung.

    Here in Shanghai, Golden Jaguar is just a buffet. Sigh.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  20. Mock_A_Bee
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    Buy a white plate

    I bet those guys were not military and the military fatigues were likely for marketing. Most military who want to sell military equipment probably sell those things off wholesale to some chump who in turn sells that stuff at flea markets rather than risk getting caught.

    However, as it turns out, as far as military stuff goes, a year or two ago I read an article about how easy it is to buy a fake white military license plate. Apparently the sellers of these plates are fairly ballsy about it and at the time the article was written they were fairly open about it at flea markets. I forgot where I read it, sorry.

    The article said apparently as far as enforcement goes, most local police don't mess with the military and vice versa, plus nobody has a database to keep track of how many and to whom special plates are issued to.

    So if you swing some big brass balls, look and act like police or military, and drive around in a suitable SUV or expensive sedan, you can drive around as if you really are entitled to be a dickhead driver.

    Just don't get caught!

    MAB.

    Originally Posted by Fuzimiao
    Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!

    M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?

    Fz
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  21. Guitarrefreak
    Inactive

    Heading to Shanghai

    Can't wait to go find my atf at bodi. But itching to go try sacrosa from the many recommendations of fellow mongers.
    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  22. JohnnyBbad
    Inactive

    Anyone in Shanghai btw nov 21-26 who want to meet a small group of us to party, hit me up (badjohnny604@gmail.com).

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  23. Debeuesch
    Member

    Hey im just arriving from beijing tomorow, as i wasnt able to find sonething in the capital i hope i can go to sacrosa if its still opened. I just read its accesable by metro, can you tell me which station and exit?

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  24. jovial93
    Member

    BBS in Shanghai

    Just went back to Shanghai
    2 years ago, I used to go to Jinhui lu : lots of nice BBS there.

    I went back yesterday, but all the bbs are now closed ?

    Anyone know some nice new areas like this one where I can find several nice BBS ?

    Cheers

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  25. zhzhq
    Member

    I found an exellent site to get nightlife entertainments in shanghai. Guys ya gotta check this out http://www.9tlife.com

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
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  27. sam123
    Member

    Hi guys,

    I wonder what will happen if you are in the sauna banging the girl and suddenly police raids. Do they arrest you or what? I do not want to make any risk of getting handcuffed or taken to police station. Is it safer then to call a girl in the hotel? Which one do you recommend?

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  28. paneraman
    Member

    Yeah.... the girls & the \'clients\' are all apprehended away. It\'s best to get a girl & take back to your place...

    Posted 2 years ago | #Reply
  29. agamemnon33
    Member

    \"back at your place\" isn\'t safer than the sauna. sauna owners had to bribe the police/officials. otherwise, they wouldn\'t stay open. not safe to bring girl back to hotel if the girl wasn\'t assoc;tiated with the hotel...the hotel management will call cops to raid your room if they find out that you have a girl in your room who doesn\'t work for the hotel...be careful and good hunting.

    Posted 1 year ago | #Reply
  30. paneraman
    Member

    true... it\'s a 50-50 chance on both ways.

    Either get caught in the \'hotel\' room... or just in your room

    Posted 1 year ago | #Reply

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