Yes I have to get up to Huanchaco, i hear the surfing is really good. I was a little disappointed at the beaches close to Miraflores. I read i think from Lima Busy that an hour south of Lima is much nicer.
What is the best way to get to Cuzco, and why do gringo's spell it Cusco?
A Train link and any Hotel recommendations would be greatly appreciated, looking at heading down 04/10 to 04/16 between Lima and Cuzco, what does the weekend look like in Lima over the Easter Holiday!
You can take a bus or plane.Most people take a plane.If you go by bus try to avoid the company orelleno(green logo) they were always behind schedule.I was told cruz del sur is a good one ...there is also a company more modern called something like cialis or something or other.Always insist on executive clase (top level) some people will try to tell you it is and it isn't.
The trip from lima is like 20 something hours by bus so I recommend you brake it up and find some towns in between that might instrest you.If you go south down the coast towards arequiepa there are a few places to stop like pisco/paracas but unforunately you would have to turn inland for a long duration of the trip.There is a lake area 8 hours inland from arequiepa that is a big tourist destination and about another 8 hours from there is cuzco.
Gringos spell cusco with an s because our native language is not espanol.I'll contain myself from using a common grammatic error that latin people use.There are many of use making an effort to learn spanish so lets play nice.
I CERTAINLY would not travel up North to surf THERE!
Chicama, Pacasamayo etc are the waves worth traveling for, NOT Juanchasco. Juanchaco is only 15 minutes or so from the best Chongo in the North (Bahia Rosa). Read my recent report in Trujillo section and check www.wannasurf.com for more details on surf spots.
Near Lima, Punta Rocas area is your best bet.
Arrived in Cusco last Sunday. Had reserved a room At the Imperial Palace over the internet. The reasons to not stay there are too numerous to mention. Just don’t. Moved to the Emperado Plaza which is quite nice for $40 a night. After seeing all the empty rooms in the morning, I’m sure they would have gone lower, but at the time I was exhausted and desperate. A chica at Noica told me she had been there and it is a good place. Haven’t tried to bring a guest yet though. There just wasn’t anything at Noica that interested me that much. I only saw two out of 8 or 9 I mught have gone for. One was putting a lot of effort into not making eye contact and the other I didn’t see until I had paid the check and was walking out the door.
Worked out ok though because I went to Sol de Oro. I have seen a few names for his place on the forum but the one that the cab drivers I spoke to knew was Sol de Oro. The cab ride from Noica was a little nerve racking because you go through neighborhoods where a gringo could easily disappear. Got there alright though.
As described previously, it is a parking lot with rooms all around. Some are open with chicas standing in them some are closed. It’s 15 soles per pop. I paid one twenty because I just didn’t have the balls to ask for change after paying $6 for a fuck. No problem whatsoever with the locals. Very laid back. And I am not the kind of gringo who blends in. One chica was yelling “hey gringo!” at me across the parking lot and some things I didn’t understand which the peruvian guys thought was quite funny. Here they don’t speak the kind of spanish they teach you with Pimsleur. But it wasn’t a problem. So I went over and did her. Well worth 15 soles. There were always 4 to 8 taxis there so getting one back to the hotel was easy. Paid 5 soles for the fare.
Checked out the Silent Spa Banos Turcos in Cusco. Wasn’t given a choice of chicas. Wasn’t offered any extras, nor did I ask. The woman was 50 if she was a day. It was my first time to this type of place. So maybe someone with more experience and better Spanish skills would do better. It’s hard to believe that the Peruvian guys I saw walking around were there for what I got.
Competition among taxis here is fierce. So it is fairly easy to avoid the gringo tax. Anywhere in town should be 2 soles. Maybe 3 to the train station and 5 to Sol de Oro or Noica and Decameron. More than 1 sole above these and you are being taxed. Just say how much you want to pay before you get in. I didn’t have one say no. Although a couple were suddenly struck with Alzheimer’s when we arrived. They didn’t fight hard and accepted what I gave in the end. It is best to have the address written down because if you ask them if they know a place they will say yes. As often as not, they will be lying. So since I didn’t have the address to Decameron, I made the guy tell me three times he knew where it was before I got in. Five soles from the Plaza d’Armas. It was a little far and I still don’t know where in the hell it is. I didn’t even see a sign on the door.
You have to walk down a long hallway to get to the club and the only indication that I was in the right place was a neon sign on the wall. This place has been described as more upscale. I don’t know if I would use that phrase. It’s big and dark. I got there at 10:30 and was the only customer in the place. There was one uninteresting chica slouching in a chair. After 15 minutes I got up to leave and the bartender told me there would be “many chicas” in twenty minutes. I wasn’t excited about returning to Noica, so I stayed. He was right. At about ten to eleven they start streaming in. I don’t know what it is like later. (I was told that it doesn’t get going until around one.) But at this time, they were all huddled in groups at tables against the wall. Difficult to see from the bar and about fifteen yards across an empty room..
Being the only customer in the joint and sober, I was happy when the bartender asked me if I wanted to talk to one. “Er, the one in red” Good guess. Nineteen year old hottie from Iquitos. No English, and a manner of speech I couldn’t possibly understand with my level of Spanish. So I got to the point quickly, which seemed to genuinely surprise her. Maybe Peruvian guys hang out all night before asking about take out, who knows. She asked for 100 soles for a half hour. But agreed to 150 for an hour. Still seemed a little high for this neck of the woods but I was into her.
When I paid the tab, the bartender tried to give me two condoms in lieu of 5 soles change. I refused this which caused much consternation around the bar. They couldn’t scrounge up 5 soles from four people? He finally flagged a cab to get the change. The cab driver kept the five for the fare. I probably would have tipped the guy at least 5 soles for bringing the girl over. But the condom thing just pissed me off a little.
When we got to the hotel, the night clerk literally blocked our entrance and said she can’t come in. I said she is not staying the night only visiting. He said no.We argued for a while. Until, I said, “What if I pay a little more?” Guess what.
He charged me the difference between what I was paying and the posted rate for double occupancy. I don’t think it would have been much easier if I had paid for a double in the first place because he made her register and I got the stink eye the next day from the female day clerk. It’s a good idea to check that the chicas have id before you leave the club. One I pulled from Tequila Rocks did not and this one would not have if I hadn’t said something before we left Decamerron.
All in all worth the trouble. Good BBBJ, nice GFE no surprises or squabbles back at the room.
2 Orange juices 20 soles
1 Chica drink 35 soles
Salida 30 soles
Chica 150 soles
Joiner 42 soles
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Since I knew my hotel is a problem my last day I just returned to Sol de Oro to get things over with. The first time I went it was 11:30 on a monday. The second time was 9:30 on a Wednesday. The selection was much better the second time. But also more guys. You can tell where the good ones are. There will be about 6 Peruvian guys hovering outside the door. As soon as it opens 2 or 3 will run up and talk to the chica apparently negotiating because you can see her shaking her head no. As soon as they leave another guy with the 15 soles will dart over and into the room. You have to be alert to get at the two or three attractive ones.
I am sure what a previous poster said is true. It is better to get there early.
I accidently posted this yesterday in the photo section. It should have been here in the Cusco section so I'm reposting.
After my first trip to Peru, I was pleasently supprised. I had some time alone in Cusco so I made a trip to Decameron. I arrived at about 11:00pm and was the only gringo there. There were about 3 other guys and about 5 girls. A few of them were a little soft, but several were very attractive. The bar tender asked me if I'd like to talk to a girl and I pointed out a one of two nice looking young ladies sitting on the couch together. He went to talk to them and they both giggled and acted silly. Not a very good turnon. The other girl, Jasmine, actually came over and we sort of talk (I have very limited Spanish). She agreed to 150 Soles for 1 hour in addition to the 35 Sole barfine, and the girl's drink.
Took a taxi to my hotel and she didn't waste any time. CBJ and then multiple poses. Seemed rushed and left shortly after. Not the best experience, but at least I felt safe at all times and the attitude was very relaxed.
Note, the taxi from the main square (Plaza de Arms) to Decameron was only 4 Soles.
Overall, I think it's a great place for mongers. If you like it cheap and ugly, there are several places you can go. If you like attractive women and are willing to spend a little extra, I recommend Decameron. It's nice to go to a place where you can openly negotiate for a young lady to do you and not worry about LE.
Also, no problem getting a girl into Hostel Cristina.
Got a taxi (5 Soles) from centro to "La Curva" last night. Took about 20 minutes. Taxi driver said it was the one and only Chonga - brothel in Cusco. Still no entrance fee and 15 Soles for 1 pop. Dark as no outdoor lights. About 100 guys there for about 30 women each with own room. Cant see much except for the red lights in their room. No old girls but all a little chubby... typical Cusco.
Its an outdoor coutyard. If going, go early about 5pm. These girls see some action. I have no doubt they do 30-40 guys per night. As soon as a door opened and a guy comes out.. about 10 guys run over to see who is available and rush in.
What was weird were the guys listening at the doors and other guys sneaking a view of the action through the cracks in the doors and windows. Very weird. You could have 3-4 guys doiing that. One security guy at hand walking around and another at entrance.
One cutie but put off by queue to get at her. Walked to the road and walked a few yards to the left. You can get a "rapido servico" back into the very centre of town for half a sole (.50).
Update: Opens at 5.00pm. Girls arrive from 4.30 - 6.00pm. Better to get there befre the crowds start arriving and girls are fresh. Get there at 5.50pm. Inner door closed until then.
You need to check out the movie PEEL: The Peru Project. It's currently showing at independent theatres here in the states. I saw it two weeks ago and it took me right back to my time in Peru. Not much in the way of chicas, but the movie really captures the feeling of visiting this country. I think you can order the DVD from the website, if you're a true fan of the genre.
Hawkers handing out leaflets for pole dancing place called "Casanova"
Un legar solo para ti
- los mejores tragos
- Atendidi por Chicas A1
Monday to Saturday from 10pm. Street called Pasaje Grace 135 just off Avenue Sol.
If you are under 30, head to Mama Africa Disco any night. Lots of drunk gringas (western backpackers / tourists). Easy enough to score. Aot of local players here as well. While lots of girls down from Lima on holiday many local girls will give you the eye and become your friend for a few days.
Pick up the local "El Sol" newspaper. Its a small daily publication. Its costs .50 of a Sole. At the near back are small ads. About 20 were of women offering services. Most girls cost 30 Soles and can either visit a guest friendly hotel or have an apartment.
I came up here on the standard 3 days and 2 night junket. It cost $547 including flights, airport transfers, tour of Cusco, train station transfers in Cusco, Vistadome train ticket, bus from Aguascalientes to Machu Picchu, tour of the ruins and lunch afterwards, and the hotel in Cusco.
Besides it´s value of providing a fig leaf cover sightseeing excuse for us mongers to the folks back home, Machu Picchu just can´t be missed if you´re in Peru. Trust me, once you´re there you´ll be glad you took time off from bopping lovely Peruanas for a bit of history and culture. The scenery is stunning. The guide has been visiting the site for 40 years and wrote a book on the place. He knows lots of cool nook and cranny stuff that most don´t.
It´s really worthwhile to stay longer than the 3 days. It´s especially a good idea to stay in Aguascalientes an extra day so you can trek to the outlying places, especially the top of the famous mountain that´s in all the photos.
Cusco itself was worth the afternoon of sightseeing. As for nightlife and mongering, I didn´t have much of a chance. The altitude factor (11,000+ feet) hit me hard, even right out of the plane door I was huffing. And it wasn´t just being out of breath. It also affects the digestive system. So I wasn´t feeling at all well for either of these two nights, and wasn´t really up for any adventures to the listed mongering places here. Early morning wakeup calls to catch the train or the plane back were the clincher. Keep in mind that Machu Picchu is about 3500 feet LOWER than Cusco, so there´s not so much effect there.
I did manage to wander around Plaza Armas a bit. I can say I saw absolutely no women looking available, pro or non-pro. I also had a look in at the sports bar which is right on the Plaza. There was one table of non-pro looking women there. But knowing that it would probably take time and work plus struggling with said altitude issues put me off from trying.
So if you´re coming to Cusco it´s worth allowing a few more days here to get acclimated and to see more of the sights. But if you´re like me you´ll be thinking that if you never hear ´El Condor Pasa´ again it will still be too soon.
Just arrived in Cuzco. I do know one thing: My little bit of butchered spanish-speaking ability is not gonna be enough for me to get around comfortably while I'm here. After Cuzco, Lima.
Wandered the smaller plaza west(?) of the main plaza this evening, met a younger girl(20-22yo), Juana. Tiny thing. The conversation was so ackward, as she knew no english, and my spanish sucks. Could barely make out that she wanted to go to the states. Was wondering, what is a discrete way of asking if a girl is working en espanol? I had no idea, so we parted ways after about 20 minutes.
When I came back to my hotel, the Anden, the guy at the front desk had a good laugh when I mentioned the possibility that she was not working. Is it true that most peruvian women are shy? Say it isn't so. So I guess I missed out on an oppurtunity. Will post further if I find anything.
If there's anyone with some mongering suggestions(preferably SW's) please post or PM. Thanks in advance.
Also, any mongering advice for Aguas Calientes? I plan on staying there for one night, so I may get to Machu Picchu early on at least one day. Let me know.
It's been a couple of years since I've been to Cusco, but I stayed at the Emperador and also at El Prado. Both were fairly nice and about $35-45/night. There was another place I stayed too but I can't remember the name. All of them allow guests, but you get a $20-25 fee added to your bill for that night.
I'm not sure what all these guys are talking about. I had tons of success in Cusco, and didn't pay a dime. Just hit the clubs around the plaza and they come right up to U. I wanna go back! Good luck!
Have been in Cuzco last week, On Cusco in general, I have to agree with the other contributors, who are not too enthusiastic about Cusco. It is cold, heavy rain, problems with the altitude, did not feel really good with it etc.
I could escape from the hotel and my sleeping partner for a few hours, with having a previous posting in mind about a 4 hands massage with extras at the Plaza de Armas, I am on my way, have found that place quickly, with your back to the Cathedral it is almost at the left corner in a small shop under the arch, name Ying & Yang.
Walked inside, nobody at the desk but I have seen trough some not clear glass window that someone was getting as massage in that room, not so nice and no good sign, I just left the place and came back a few hours later.
My Spanish is good enough for good conversation, so I discussed with the Lady at the front desk the massage possibilities, there massage treatment she say’s. Is a mixed up from different styles like hot stone and oil etc, but not a real Aromatherapy or a full oil as on there leaflet mentioned, this did not sounds good, the price was 80 soles for 1hour, that’s expensive, (maybe include HJ relax? ) was asking for a four hands mass. As the name Ying & Yang is a Bali type massage with 2 girls (she did not know is), she told me that they never have done this, on the leaflet is mentioned that there are 10 girls working, asked here to see them to choose but she was there just alone and maybe a extra girl at evening. I had a look in the room and there are 3 table beds with no curtain between, not good looking to get extra’s when there are more clients.
Final question, do you provide "erotic massage" or "relax at the end" received a Big NO as it was a therapeutic only massage place, so I told here to be back at evening and left the place.
Other massage places.
Checked all of them around the plaza and the side streets.
Starting from the Monasterio hotel entrance, walking the street down, 30meter left, my first stop, asked the price, 30 soles /1h, open curtain, no doors, rain and cold, did not see meself lie on the table bud naked in the cold, asked for extra’s NO way
After 20 meter, 1e street right, 6 or 7 mass. Places with girls outside the door to give you a small leaflet and info (this was a better sign to ask info on extra’s). Price was everywhere 30 soles/h, I asked for " erotic massage or relax or extras " all girls told me, forbidden or not possible, I told them that they would get a good tip, no way, some girls have turned there back and walked inside. This was not a good sign to me.
Back to the plaza de Armas and other side streets.
Checked a few with the same result, even Olga, some are hairdresser salons with a mass. Table behind the curtain in the same room, imagine to have a HJ or BJ with other women around having there air done,
On the right corner, closed to the little square a good looking girl approached me (must have seen me coming out from that other place) asked me if I wanted a real good massage for 30 soles,
I say yes and I told here my conditions: clean place, not cold, clean sheets and towels good strong aromatherapy and " relax " at the end. OK agreed. She took me to a back street to a private nice apartment, a room with 2 beds nice and clean (just new painted) and she switched a electric blower on, good sign.
On the table, I was covered with a lot of towels and a blanket on me but it was still not a comfortable feeling atall, this was also a bit unhandsome to receive a good mass. With long strokes but everything she did was professional work. No complains so far.
At the end she told me, OK finished, I asked here for the extra HJ for a good tip, she refused for a wile but I kept the pressure on and she told me right away that this extra was 30 soles, OK for me, its only 10$, will see.
She pulled the towels in the middle a bit away and started massaging my groin area and pulling a few time on my sleeping willy, I told here how I want it and I asked here to slow down but I think she knows where my "switch" was and I came before I even had a hard one, there was nothing erotic or sensual at all involved, she hade no knowledge how to please like they do in Thailand, let you cum within a minute is not a art, the contrary.
Damage was only 60soles or 20$, cheaper than Ying & yang and better than nothing.
When I paid and left she begged me not to tell anybody about the extra " due to the law " as she would hang" and she give me a sign as a rope around here neck.
Have been half a day in Agua Callientes when I came from Machu Picchu, wanted to go to the hot spring bath’s but it was all day so heavy raining and I was wet till the bone and took the train to Cuzco, could not check out the places there. Not in the mood.
Conclusion, Cuzco area is not the right place for this kind of extra’s and I think that your body is not in the mood for big action due to altitude difference.
Copy of my report at CRT, FYI:
Quick report on Cusco. Take your Diamox - I'm sensitive to altitudes and it worked great, so much so that I had spare energy to try the local talent. Being that it is off season, or perhaps police pressure, there were 0 advertisements for chicas in the El Sol newspaper. But datamining a recent list from perutops, I made about a dozen calls; most of them were disconnected. The one chica that was still working, Karina, I think I scared off in my phone call to her with my lousy spanish. She was incall in a not so nice area of town. Another chica, whose name I forgot but has her own website, wanted $100/hr. No gracias. But she speaks Ingles.
So I went to the Decamaron, the highest end club in Cusco, which is a relative term. It's not bad, an OK place and not too loud so one can actually have a conversation with the chicas. Got there at 11PM, I was the only guy in the place. Saw three chicas sitting in a set of couches and went over to talk. Bought them a pitcher of drinks and we had a good time for about an hour joking and bullshitting (all in Spanish, no Ingles at all). Names, Valerie (too thick), Alaska (spinner) and another tall one, who is the prettiest, Lucero, a touch hard-core but great sense of humor. They're friends and all live together and hang at the club together, so they're easy to spot. Making a hard decision, I took Alaska because she's a spinner from Iquitos, and I like the selva/jungle chicas. I think we agreed upon 150 soles. She unfortunately was mediocre, but had a nice body, OK face and had an orgasmo that woke up half the hotel I suspect. Next time, I'd pick the taller one, Lucero.
Basically the Decameron is worth the trip, but you will have to do your homework in the place, as there are a lot of gorditas and the level of beauty is not nearly as high as Lima. 11PM at the earliest.
I just made a reservation at Los Apus, $89/night. I just found it in my Moon Guidebook and it was highly recommended. They are at www.losapushotel.com. Let me know if that doesn't work.
This will be my first time in Peru, so I could use some help from some of you vets: How many days is good to spend in Cuzco? And what's the best plan of action: To spend time in Cuzco first or do Machu Pichu first? And how to get from Cuzco to MP (or vice versa)? Sacred Valley - should I stay there a day or two or just pass through?
And then, of course, there's the mongering. What's the scene like in Cuzco?
A few nitespots in Cusco but no real action. Go to Sebastian; there's a dsico called Decameron Club, as noted below. You'll be the only gringo there and you better speak some Espanol. Going with someone would be a good thing as I question the area.
Once inside there are many girls (after 11:30pm). This isn't Medellin so don't expect much, but there is the ocassional looker. They'll start out at 300 soles, knowing your'e a gringo, but can get them down to 100-150, Plus exit charge of course, I believe 30-40 soles.
Not the swankiest place but if you gotta bust a nut in Cusco, it's an option.
I'd spend the nite in Cuzco, so you can adjust to the altitude, because you will get altitude sickness, most likely. I'm in pretty good shape and thought; 'no way', but it hit me for about 24 hrs. Best thing is if hotel has oxygen in lobby. Coca tea helps but nothing compared to Oxygen.
Book the train to MP asap as it fills up quickly. 4 price ranges: First Class - Hyram Bingham to back packer. They start from 6;:30am thru 9:30 am. It's 3-4 hour trip depending on which one you choose. Wear a sweater/jacket as it is freezing that time in the morning. The lower end trains have no heat. It was so cold we saw our breath! The train ride is spectacular for scenery.
If you want more than one day at MP, you can stay in Aquas Calinetes, the city at the base of MP. You can also stay at MP; There is only one hotel and it's 5 stars starting at $400 a night.
Cusco hotels will charge a joiner fee, up to $30US. Yes. Their way of saying they don't want you bringing girls back. It happened to us and turned into a 'situation'. lol
Cusco has lots of girls walking around and if you got the slightest bit of game I'm sure they would play. They would appreciate some taxi money I'm sure as most are poor.
PM for any more info.
Bueno suerte amigo!
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