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    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  2. Charly
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    Campo Alegre/Mirage Resort is still alive and kickin' (as of June 2002).
    The quality/beauty of the girls has improved IMHO in the last 6-7 months. It's still 3 USD entrance and 30 USD for the girl (USD are accepted but pay in Guilders, that's cheaper). You have a selection of ca. 60 girls. So if you take your time you can easily be with two or three girls a night. The 30 USD buy you up to 30 minutes of private time with the girl in her little apartment. If you want more time (or have any - eerrrr - unusual fantasies) that will mean more DINERO.

    I like the girls "recien llegadas" who only recently - in the last 2 weekes - have came to the Campo. They are still "fresh" and are still looking for a "novio" (boyfriend) or even a husband. They usually haven't seen much of the island and if you have a rental car should consider inviting your favorite girl for an island tour for the next day. You will see that GFE's are relatively easily available from the girls there. But be careful when you seriously fall in love with one of the chicas: Many of the girls have kids at home in Baranquilla, Cali, Bogota etc. and you might wind up getting very quickly a big family whether you want it or not.... :-)

    If you want to know what girl is in what room and when she arrived, sign up on the Campo's homepage for their newsletter.

    To get to Campo Alegre/Mirage either ask a taxi driver, or look up the direction on their homepage (www.campo-alegre-resort.com) or drive to the airport, leave it behind to your left and past the Hotel Holland - about 1 mile away on the left-hand side- you will see their pink neo signs at night. Turn left after you have passed the small hill on the left side. It's a small road uphill maybe 200 feet to the left is the Campo, hard to miss. From the Campo you have a nice view of Hato airport.

    The mostly Colombian girls are between 20 and 40 years old, most are in the 4-6 region, some are 7-8. Haven't seen any 10 so far...If you know one pls give us her room number....

    They are only allowed to work in the Dutch Caribbean for max. 3 months in a row for a max. of twice a year. That means at best they are 6 months on the Netherlands Antilles. They have to pay between 70 and 90 Guilders per day to their Antillean resort owners for their usually clean apartments where they receive their guests. Since they charge min. 50 Guilders per customer and the campo is open 24/7 they need only two customers a day to "break even". Only the not-so-good looking girls will therefore aggressively look for your business. The rest will wait for you to make the first step.

    Those girls who only pay 70 Guilders for their apartments have to take part in the strip-tease shows that are part of the program several times a week I was told...

    You can easily spend 5 or 6 hours there: you will find a bar, and a snack restaurant for your other 'needs'. Though the Campo is open 24 hours 7 days a week, most of the guests (70% locals and 30% tourists and others) arrive between 9 PM and 3 AM. By day you have only a small selection of girls and walking around is not very comfy because of the heat. The two restrooms are usually reasonably clean.

    The atmosphere at the Campo is usually relaxed, though the other day I've seen a violent fight between a girl and a customer there too. Security is very good at the Mirage - for the protection of the girls and the guests.

    If you've never been to the Campo and are planning to go to one of the ABC islands without your wive or fiancee, DO CHECK IT OUT! I can recommend it! IMHO Campo Alegre is at least 25% better than San Nikolas on neighboring Aruba Island (though tastes differ of course).

    Regarding questions what hotels are guest friendly: On the campo homepage the folks recommend the Hotel Holland next to the airport. I can't confirm since I've seen it only from the outside. The hotel looks reasonably good and even has a casino. But: On the Campo every girl has a room available. You don't necessarily need to leave after 30 minutes. I stayed about 4 hours with one girl I liked. If you want to take her back to your hotel anyway I recommend to do so by day: If the girl dresses 'conservatively' she should be able to blend in with the vacation guests. By night this can be a real problem with most hotels. The big hotels (Marriott, Sheraton, Plaza) have tight security. Whether 'bribing' security will be successfull or not I don't know.

    The policy of the Campo is that the girls should be there at least between 6 PM and 6 AM. However, this is usually not tightly enforced and - if you really want to - you can take the girl out at any time.

    I think the resort hotels like Marriott (!) or Sheraton are great if you spent the days at the beach and the nights with the girls. The Plaza hotel in Punda is considerably cheaper (though not as fancy) and they drive you with a courtesy van to a nice beach outside of town. In any case I strongly recommend you to rent a car. They are available over the internet (travelocity.com, expedia.com) from ca. 35 USD upward incl. CDW. Taxis - for whatever reason - are pretty expensive (USD 20 one-way from Punda to Campo at night).

    The other options you have on Curacao are either expensive (Club Havana near Holiday Beach Hotel) or slightly seedy (the SWs in Otrabanda on the opposite side of the Kura Hulanda Hotel, uphill, in that small side street in front of the night club and the little hotel in that street - can't recall the name of this hotel - but if you drive coming from the big bridge you wil see them standing right-hand one or two blocks before the big blue building - another hotel/casino which name I forgot...-).

    Charly
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  3. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black and others:

    Hope this report, although lacking in mongering detail, proves helpful to the Board!

    I have traveled to Curacao several times in the past few years and the nightlife is abundant relative to other Caribbean islands. It is one of the few Caribbean islands I could spend a week on and not suffer from severe boredom. Curacao, being a Dutch territory, is loaded with beautiful Dutch women as well as some beauties from other Caribbean islands, Venezuela, and Colombia, among other South American countries. To the Dutch especially, Curacao is much like Cancun to the Americans—it is the place to go to party. KLM airlines has direct flights here I believe, which fosters the significant Dutch representation. In fact, there are quite a few younger Dutch (college-types) that work there during summer vacation. In terms of the locals, I have not seen and/or met many local girls that I would consider attractive (we all have different tastes of course).

    Now, to the evening festivities. Although I cannot provide you with addresses, my memory is simply not that good, I found Curacao to have 1-2 really happening places each night, beginning Wednesdays of each week and ending Sunday night (Monday and Tuesday always seemed pretty dead). There may be others that I simply have never visited, but I think the following is fairly comprehensive. Some of the clubs are comparable in ambience to what one sees in major cities of the US. Most of the clubs close at 2 AM, but some close at 4 AM (you will see a migration from the 2 AM clubs to the 4 AM each night). You may want to check out www.curacao.com for addresses and the like.

    I think it is very possible, from my experience, to hook up with a non-pro at any of the following clubs/bars. However, if you are not generally the type capable of doing so with non-pros in major cities across the industrialized world, my guess is your prospects for success will be similar here (local-type non-pros may be a different story though given the modest economic situation here).

    Wednesday:
    “Grand Café De Heeren” (a/k/a “De Heeren”) is the place on Wednesdays. It is a fairly relaxed bar, where all types hang out. Worth checking out, but being Wednesday, the scene is not as robust and exciting as other nights of the week at other clubs.

    Thursday:
    “Mambo Beach” (a/k/a “Mambo”) is the place on Thursdays (even more so on Friday-Sunday). Mambo Beach, as its name suggests, is located on the beach. It is an enormous beach-type club, with a large dancing area, a stage, booming sound system, and many tables on the sand. This place could have more than 1,000 people in it at peak times.

    There will be a ton of beauties here. The demographics are generally 18-40s here, with most in their 20s, and all economic classes are represented. Generally, you cannot go wrong with Mambo any of the weekend nights (Thursday through Sunday). You will find many many Dutch and Latina beauties in there. There is another Bar/Club which adjoins Mambo that could also be quite good--you may not even know you left Mambo if you walk down the beach 200 yards to get there.

    Friday:
    "The Living Room" is the place on Friday night (Saturday is great as well). It is a combination lounge and dance club owned by a Frenchman, with velvet sofas/chairs throughout with a nice lighting and sound system. If you enjoy Big-City clubs of this type, you will feel right at home. This place, being relatively expensive for the island, tends to attract a more upscale crowd. I don’t recall if there is a cover charge. Lots of beautiful people here. After things die down here, people go to Zenzurro (2-4 AM), which is a dance club/bar. I have seen some beautiful pros here (2-3), sitting at the bar, if you want that—not completely obvious though. Vast majority of people are “normal”. Zenzurro is perhaps my favorite place on the island.

    Saturday:
    Mambo and The Living Room and Zenzurro late-night (see above).

    Sunday:
    Mambo’s biggest night (see above)—a must attend event. Things get started here at 5/6 PM. Also, I would highly recommend Hook’s Hut—located on the Beach very close to the Sheraton hotel but fairly isolated (4-5 miles outside of Punda/Otrabanda town center). You may want to go here first for live Reggae and dinner (food is quite good) and then migrate to Mambo. Hook’s is great for dinner any night.

    Late Late Nights:
    Cheers, not related to the chain in the States, is the place that people “in-the-know” go very late night (4-6 AM) Wednesday through Saturday. It is kind of a dive bar, but it is a pretty nice social environment—gets quite packed. I was taken there initially by a Colombian girl I met who lived on the Island.

    Dining:
    In terms of dining, I would recommend Plein Café for lunch—it is in the center of the square, across from a tiny park. It is good, fast, cheap, and allows you to view the passers-by. Hook’s is always a good dinner option. There is also a series of restaurants on the water just next to the Plaza Hotel, on the Punda side of downtown. All of the options there have been “decent”—no Le’ Cirques on this island if that is your definition of “decent”. Zanzibar is one of the better places on the island, but it is reasonably far from the center of ton.

    Transportation:
    Rental car highly recommended—a must-have IMHO. You will spend a ton of money on cab fare if you do not—the prices per mile are ridiculous and they do not have meters. You could pay like $5/mile if u r not careful. If you have a car, be watchful for stray goats, dogs, and other livestock (you’ll see this first-hand when down there).

    Other:
    If you are an herb smoker, u will find it very difficult to find high-quality product. But mediocre herb is available. Ask the busboys at your hotel/motel. Also, enjoy the Amstel Bright beer here. If you like Corona, this is even better IMHO and is brewed in the Caribbean (it is effectively a “Corona Killer” in the Dutch Antilles).

    Have fun everyone and happy hunting!

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  4. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black:

    I have never stayed at the Lion's Dive so can't say too much about it. I do know that it is reasonably close to the action--close in driving terms (the island is not that large--30 minutes top to bottom). If you can afford it, I would recommend staying at either the Sheraton or Marriott (located next door to each other) about 4 miles from the center. In fact, these hotels are in-between the downtown and Le Mirage (a/k/a Campo Allegre). They are probably the 2 premier hotels on the island. Both have excellent beaches and are beautiful properties overall. However, I can't comment on how girl-friendly they are (my guess is they are not). FYI, the quality of the beach varies significantly based on island location. A lesser hotel, without a beach but very centrally located, is The Plaza. It is on the water, but it has no beach (just rocks). Holiday Beach would be another option. Not as nice as Sheraton/Marriott, and not as expensive, but it is on a decent beach and even closer to the city center. Let me know if you need additional clarification.

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  5. Enricos
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    If you want additional info on Curacao, try www.k-pasa
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  6. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black:

    IMHO, the Marriott and Sheraton are well worth it in terms of their room accomodations and the resort itself (beach, food, pools, ambience, more upscale guests, etc.). Both also have scuba diving centers on the premises if you are a diver. I think there is a significant drop-off in quality from those two, from my experience at other hotels/motels, but that may be less important to you than some other things to spend money on. Last time I was there, the Sheraton was $120 US/night and the Marriott $160-$180. I think Holiday Beach was like $90-$100 when I stayed there--and it is across the street from La Havana, a strip club where the girls can be taken out after close for like $100 all-night. The above hotel prices are before the defacto ridiculous hotel taxes and the like. I would recommend the Sheraton of the 3 mentioned above for its price/value ratio--go to www.starwood.com and check to see if they have specials (they guarantee the best rates on their own site or they refund the difference + 10%).

    In terms of the Club scene and finding pros, I have never really looked for that given my previous success with non-pros. As such, I cannot give you much information or quote you prices from experience. If I had to guess, based mostly on what others have told me down there, I would not expect that all night would cost less than $100 or more $200. This may sound like a lot, particularly relative to the DR, but this island has a far better economic situation than the DR (not so much a 3rd world environment with average income in US$ of like $8,000). Think of it as more like Mexico in terms of pricing structure.

    The only place I could state with some certainty, with my own eyes, that there were pros is Zenzurro (mentioned in my previous post). Again, have never confirmed this so no guarantees they were pros and don't know the prices. I did speak with a couple while at the bar, making small talk with the neighbors at the bar, and just got that sense. BTW, they were absolutely gorgeous Colombian girls. In fact, maybe my radar should be turned on in the future (just for the sake of this board of course--LOL).

    Something you should also know is that like other resort locales, the girls are down here to party. So if you are an attractive and personable guy, and on the younger side (under 40 say), I think you will have some luck at the clubs/bars. Women always seemed very approachable to me. It also helps if you can dance.

    Lastly, Le Mirage is slow during the day, as many of the girls go shopping or spend the day with customers met the previous night. However, I have seen girls during the day that I never saw in the evening--the best girls are locked in their rooms with customers and you don't see them walking the premises at night. And, you may get a less hurried service (more GFE). I would spend my evenings at the clubs I mentioned and try for non-pros and pros. If all else fails you can return to Le Mirage late night or you can go to La Havana to get a girl for an all-nighter. La Tasca is another place on the Otrabanda side (there are others nearby as well) and the girls can be taken out for all-nighters. I have never brought back a pro to Sheraton or Marriott, but have not had any problems bringing back a better-dressed Dutch girl late at night(no sign-in required of me at either of those).

    When are you heading down there? I am sure you will have a blast.

    Happy Hunting!

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  7. BacknBlack
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    Fred,

    I am going to take your advice and stay at the Marriot or Sheraton. I figured if I didn't see anyone I liked at the clubs/bars I would hit Mirage late night especially Mon & Tues night. I did not realize there were strip clubs in Curacao. The two you mentioned La Havana and La Tasca what time do they close? Are the women Latino? I really like latino women. What are the prices like to get in, buy a drink and hang out. I know you said you can get an all-nighter for a $100 afer the places close. Curacao sounds like a fun time. I am surprised I never really heard anything about it. I figured it was mostly a couples spot like most of the Carribean. I will probably go sometime in the fall. Thanks for all the info.

    backnblack
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  8. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black:

    I think you will be pleased with either the Marriott or Sheraton. If you want to save a few bucks, you may want to do the Sheraton. Having stayed at both, I would save the dollars and stay at Sheraton. It is just slightly below the quality of Marriott, but will save you like $40+/night. However, I would not miss the Sunday brunch at Marriott--$20 for all you can eat including Champagne/Wine and lots of great food and such. It is literally next door to the Sheraton--200 yards away.

    I believe that La Havana, across from Holiday Beach hotel, and La Tasca, in the sketchy Otrabanda side of downtown, both close at 4 AM (perhaps even 5 AM). I'm not sure how it works at La Tasca, but at La Havana the girls may not be able to leave until after closing. However, I did not take any girls out at either place--I simply had conversations with the girls about it. I also think that hitting Campo Allegre (a/k/a La Mirage) is a good idea as a last resort at the end of your evening.

    The above mentioned strip clubs are just 2 (beyond Campo Allegre) of maybe as many as 10 total. There are others, having driven by a couple on the Otrabanda side, but I do not know there names. If you rent a car and survey the downtown area, I think you will inevitably run by them. I don't know if anything exists on the Punda side--this side seems to be the cleaner of the two and they are separated by a Pontoon bridge. There were also a couple outside of the center of downtown past the Punda side over the big bridge (you will cross this bridge many-a-time while down there). If you're familiar with NYC, it's almost like crossing from the nice parts of Manhattan (say up to 105th) to Harlem--it can get kind of sketchy. You may want to be alert when on the Otrabanda side late at night. There are people who will aggressively follow you around offering drugs and/or girls. I did not take any of those offers, but you may be more bold than I. The prices offered for girls ranged from $20-$50 and am not sure what time period that implied. I never saw anything happen to anyone down there at night, but that certainly does not mean crime is nonexistent. Curacao is seen by many Latinas as an economically robust island with much better economic opportunities than their respective hometowns.

    La Havana, at least during the hours I have gone, has never charged me for entry. Beers are like $3/$4 US, and I have purchased drinks for the girls at the same price (highly diluted drinks as you can imagine). All of the girls there seem to be from the DR. In the times I have gone, there are usually like 10 girls who rotate dances. The quality is generally 5-8, with only one or two being an 8. La Tasca is similar statistically, perhaps with 2x as many women, and some diversity in ethnic origin (some from northern parts of S. American and from Central America). I have never "entered" either place after midnight, have never dealt with a bouncer at the door, and thus never paid an entry. It does seem that later in the eveing the door is manned, but I don't know if there is a fee or ID's are just being checked (probably a fee but can't be more than $5-$10). The girls hardly speak English, so hopefully you can speak some basic spanish. If not, perhaps you can polish up beforehand or bring a little dictionary. Of course, they do know basic sexual language. The island in general does speak English pretty well. You will need to negotiate I think to get them for $100 (again, never did this but have had conversations with the girls at both, in spanish, and have been told as much). They may start off at $200, but they usually expect $100 as a minimum and maybe even $150. I don't know if every girl will go out, as some hold themselves out as "good girls" who would never do such a thing, but I would expect that most (80% perhaps) will do so--they earn very little on premises. And, since all have been imported there and typically have some children back home, wherever home may be, they are motivated to maximize what they can send home.

    Interestingly, Curacao has never struck me as a couples island. There are lots and lots of single people there from the Caribbean, South American, US, and Europe (mostly Denmark). Of course, there are couples there as well. Another word of advice--you may want to become real friendly with the Latina bartenders at your hotel--YMMV will vary with your age and looks. I have managed to hook up with a couple of them that way, non-paid, and have been introduced to their friends and such. I hooked up with this incredible Colombian girl, a friend of one of the bartenders, who was just an absolute firecracker. If you take these girls out, after hours or on their day off, and treat them well (buying drinks and such), you may be highly rewarded come bar/club closing time. Dancing also helps. As perspective, I am in my early 30s, a successful bachelor who dresses well, am physically fit/muscular, and have never really had a problem getting laid otherwise.

    I think you will have an absolute blast--great weather, great women, friendly people, active nightlife scene, Campo Allegre as a first or last stop, great diving, etc. etc. Also, Curacao is below the hurricane belt, much like Aruba, and the weather is 80-90 degrees year-round (maybe even hotter in Summer) with little rain.

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  9. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    LuvBlkWomen:

    Your question seems to conflict with your WSG handle/moniker--LOL.

    The two places with the most Dutch beauties have always seemed to be: 1) Mambo Beach and 2) The Living Room (in that order). I don't know about the "Jungle Fever" thing, but I do know these girls go to Curacao for partying purposes. As you also probably know, Europeans are much more sexually liberated than Americans. So, a one-night-stand (or 2 if she is special--LOL) is certainly a possibility. I have never gotten the sense that they racially discriminate in the men they talk with. However, there tend to be as many Dutch-boys as there are Dutch-girls and they often hang out with each other. In general, the Dutch girls are really nice and, assuming you are reasonably attractive, self-confident and not an asshole, are very approachable. If you have the game to go along with your looks, you should have little problem. Of course, you will most likely miss more than you hit, but it's a numbers game anyway right?

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  10. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black:

    AA from NYC with connection in Miami and then directly to Curacao. AA is also extra spacious throughout Coach so less need to upgrade. If you have some flexibility on departure and return, and are willing to surrender airline preference, you may want to use www.hotwire.com to get a great rate. Of course, you are not guaranteed AA (but 80%+ likelihood based on Orbitz's partner airlines and limited carriers going to Curacao from the States). Otherwise, I would recommend using www.orbitz.com.

    Good luck!

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  11. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Back 'n' Black:

    I have only traveled to Aruba with a stateside long-term girlfriend b4, so did not do the research. My understanding is that Aruba has a similar set-up to Campo Allegre/La Mirage, but on a smaller scale (don't know what it's called). Also, I think that the other pro options may be more limited than in Curacao. Aruba is a prettier island, particularly because it is less industrial--Curacao does quite a bit of oil refinery work for Venezuela which in certain areas very much detracts from the scenery. However, for general partying, IMHO, Curacao is far better than Aruba. The diving, if you're into that, is not nearly as good in Aruba. Aruba seems geared toward families and couples. It also has a fraction of the population of Curacao. Lastly, if you're just absolutely torn between the two, you could probably book a round-trip flight between the 2 and effectively divide your time (they are not very far apart). As I understand it, there are daily flights between them (maybe even a boat also).

    Hope this helps answer at least the latter part of your question.

    Enjoy!

    Fred
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  12. BacknBlack
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    Fred,

    I thought Aruba was more for families and couples. The one thing that surprised me was the red light district in Aruba. I am going to go Curacao. Thanks for the info again.

    backnblack
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  13. Dutchman
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    San Nicolas in Aruba is just a concentration of 10+ bars. If you want girls, you need to hop from one bar to other. Le Mirage in Curacao you will find more than 60 girls in one place. Besides of Le Mirage you have alot of bars/disco, La havana, Tasca, Rode Leeuw, crazy horse, etc etc etc
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  14. BacknBlack
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    Dutchman,

    Fred Flintstone has given me a lot of good info. I was wondering if you could add anything to what he provided. My understanding the chicks in La Havana and La Tasca are rated 5-8's. The beers in these places are $3-$4. Whats the cover? The chicks will start off asking for $200 but like anywhere else you have negotiate their price down. What do you think is a good price for one of these chicks $100 or cheaper? What would this be in the local currency? Do you suggest anywhere else besides La Mirage, La Havana and La Tasca? I am going to stay in the Sheraton do you think I can get these chicks in there if not where can I bring them?
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  15. Dutchman
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    You definitely need a rental car to explore the island. There are some car rental shops just at your left hand side once you step out the arrive hall. Sheridon is a very nice hotel. Not sure if it is guest friendly or not. I don’t see any security in the lobby. If you still don’t want the front-desk clerk see you, you may enter the casino from the parking lot and walk through the casino ahead to the elevator. No mater of price, safety, facility, choice, etc Le Mirage is better than all other places.

    Dutchman

    Every female is a possible target. It is the way, how you communicate with her.
    Posted 12 years ago | #Reply
  16. DukePV
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    Notes from a 4 day trip to Curacao, September, 2002:

    Hotel Holland - is run-down, tattered carpets, chipped paint, pool not well-maintained. $66/night single room rack rate, $58/night if 4-night stay. All rooms face the sea, but you also see the airport runway in front of it. The staff is very nice. The restaurant menu doesn't have 1/2 of what is printed. $8 for small breakfast with canned juice but good coffee, $15 for a grilled red snapper dinner entree. If you traveled only with a carry-on rolling bag, you can walk from airport, turn left onto Rooseveltweg and go for 15 minutes, slightly uphill grade, it's on your left. I made a reservation by phone, but place was only 30% full.

    Campo Alegre - is a 15 minute slightly uphill walk from the Hotel Holland. Go out the front door and turn LEFT onto Rooseveltweg (in other words, continue walking away from the airport). On your left you'll pass a paved road entrance to a development, which then exits after you walk a bit further. You'll pass Hato Caves on your right, which is about 1/2 way there. The third paved road on your left (on the ocean side) leads to Campo Alegre. After you start climbing it you'll see a tall green coca-leaf sign with "Campo Alegre". The place has been modernized, with brightly-painted walls and palm trees. Very nice inside. Entrance is still US$3, no cameras, frisking possible. The grounds outside are dry and dusty, but inside the compound is very clean, and the girls' units are attractive and nicely maintained. I didn't realize it at first, but you are allowed to wander around the entire grounds looking for girls standing in or near their units--you don't have to sit at one of their several bars and wait. As for the names, "La Mirage" is the name of the bar inside, and "Campo Alegre" is the name of the entire compound.

    The girls - the majority are black, many from Colombia and Dominican Republic. If you are seeking a white girl, don't despair, this place is big and there's something for everybody. I found a girl from Medallin, Columbia and absolutely fell in love with her. Light complexion, slender, friendly, 22 yrs old, actively tried to please me (massage, oral, the whole bit). We spoke only in basic Spanish, which was a big help in forming the relationship. After my 4th visit, she gave me her real name so I could write to her post office box address (I hear you laughing...oh well, a guy can dream, can't he?) Prices have not changed: $30 for everything, but girls want local currency (Netherlands Antilles guilders, or florin), so exchange your currency with the cashier at the entrance first.

    The weather - too hot and very humid. It's fine after sunset, but daytime walking around sucks.

    Hope this helps.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  17. JimmyDR
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    Duke is the MAN!

    Duke,

    Its not a joke that you have her address. I bet she meets you in the daytime for just the cost of a meal. These chicas need friends as well as everyone else. Nice description of the distance of the hotel to the airport and place. How much is a taxi? Would you stay at this hotel again?
    Does that hotel have a website?

    By the way, I speak Spanish sort of and I hang with many chicas in DR for the cost of a meal and all it took was a few phone calls between trips.

    Thanks
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  18. DukePV
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    Jimmy,

    I didn't take a taxi, but for a 2-minute ride it couldn't be much. My guide book says a taxi charge from the airport to Willemstad, a much longer distance, is about $15. (By the way, there's a local bus into town that can be boarded across the street from the Hotel Holland: 75¢, takes about 1/2 hour.)

    I would stay at the hotel again only if financially constrained. It's good for folks on a tight budget, those who prefer walking, and those who only want to visit Campo Alegre. Otherwise I think a resort hotel and rental car is the way to go, especially if you want to tour around the island or go to the beaches.

    A website, of sorts, for the Hotel Holland is at http://www.dutch-caribbean.net/hotel...telholland.htm

    Frommer's guide also has a short description: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUrl-g...d-Curacao.html

    While we're at it, here's the website for Campo Alegre: http://www.campo-alegre-resort.com/html/

    Incidentally, girls are allowed out of Campo Alegre for overnights/sightseeing. The Hotel Holland had what looked like a standard list of rules on the wall, including one that didn't allow guests in the room. Even if this is enforced (which is dubious), there's only a $13 difference between the single and double room nightly charge.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  19. Deep_Sea_Diver
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    Jimmy:

    I second Fantasy's advice. Previously, I have strongly advocated staying at the Sheraton or Marriott. If these exceed your budget, then the next level down (say 3 star) would include the Plaza Hotel downtown (on the nicer Punda side) and Holiday Beach (just outside of Otrabanda and, conveniently enough, across the street from La Havana). Both are in the $90-$100/night range (may be able to negotiate a better price or better room). Unfortunately, I can't comment from personal experience regarding hotels below that price point. Of the two, I would suggest Holiday Beach because it is on a beach, as its name implies, while the Plaza (high-rise hotel downtown) is on the water but lacks any beach area. However, if you prefer, Plaza is in the heart of downtown and, therefore, within walking distance of many restaurants and shops (all the better social night clubs, IMHO, are not within walking distance of downtown). You may want to read my earlier detailed posts to get a sense for the happening clubs/bars (i.e. Mambo Beach, Living Room, etc.).

    Lastly, do yourself a huge favor and rent a small vehicle (can probably get a pretty good deal through Hotwire). I found out the hard way, during my first trip, that taxi fares can quickly exceed car rental rates if you do lots of exploring. Personally, I would rather spend the taxi fees and have the flexibility to come and go where and when I please. Be careful of wild animals scurrying about (goats, sheep, dogs, cats, etc.).

    Hope this helps!

    Fred
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  20. LuvBlkWomen
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    Campo-Allegre

    Was in Curacao in august and went to Campo-Allegre one night. Unbelievable, old army barracks transformed into a state licensed brothel. Great selection. Guys I was with said, better than Amsterdam action. Must admit, had to sample. One chica, Black sugar with long braids from Columbia. One of the guys I was with, had one of the girls meet him at the hotel the next day for midday pool and beach action, followed by bedroom debauchery before she had to go to work.

    The world is so horny.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  21. Dutchman
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    If you are looking for a nice hotel for good price. Try The Sea Aquarium Resort, Bapor Kibra Z/N, Curacao An. (5999)-4656699 They have a special deal for limited time US$69.95 a night. The hotel is located in Sea Aquarium area. Next Mambo beach.

    A rental car is a must.

    Dutchman
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  22. Mose
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    Will be traveling to Curacao in the next few weeks. Camp Allegre was great a year ago. Any new places worthwhile? Last time I noticed some action each evening on a street corner just outside the Punda. Any one hook up with one of these gals? At that time the Havana club and Red Lion had some below average women. 3's and 4's at best.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  23. Mose
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    Visited Curacao in November and found things about the same. Campo Allege is #1. No change in prices and the quality is consistant. Spent so much time there I went looking for some Viagra (the local pharmacy required a prescription - so get it filled before you go).

    Spent some time at Tosca or what ever you call it in the Otrapunda. Seedy bar with hotels next door and across the street. $50 for FS. Not much action until 11PM. Outside apprearance is tough, but once you get in things are fine. Never felt uncomfortable as to safety.

    One evening went to La Havana. What a waste of time. Gals were 2's at best. Even the local Harley cycle crowd left after a while.

    Next year I was considering a vist to the Domican Republic. Reports indicate, Curacao would be better, ie less pick pockets and drugs etc.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  24. Qncterra
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    mose,

    I've never been to Curacao, so decided to check the posts. BTW, Was in Domincan Republic (Sosua) last March. It was bad, but you have watch out for the pickpockets. I have travelled to CR several times, had read a lot of the DR posts and thought that I knew what to expect. But on my third day there, I packed a bill in my fanny pack, (with camera), to exchange for pesos. An agressive SW just walked up and invaded my space. I never even stopped walking, until she literally stepped in front of me and grabbed my crotch, as I tried to push her away. They know if they grab a man's crotch in public he's gonna focus on that, (either to try and stop it, or to enjoy it.) Either way, the other hand's in your pocket. 35-40 seconds was all that it took.
    If your going to the northern DR, then Palace still seems to be a hot spot to stay, but you might check with ******* on that.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  25. Mose
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    Driving in Curacao is no different than any where else in the US. Just need to know where you are going, especially crossing the bridge. Worst case, you do a go around. I have driven through some of the seedy parts of the Otrabunda at night with no problems. I believe if you are looking to score drugs you will find problems, big time. Other wise enjoy the locals, columbian and dr women and leave with a big whistle and smile. The Dutch no how to run an island and the people know how to satisfy the tourists.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  26. Mose
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    Originally posted by Joe Francis
    Any info on Breezes resort in Curacao. How far from the action?
    About a half hour drive back to the airport where you will find the Mirage Campo Allegre with 200 women willing to give you a cool aid smile for $30.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  27. Mr_Jetsetter
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    Having lived in the Reno, Nevada area for four years in the glorious early 1980s before virus scares put a damper on the scene, and having done some mongering in Indonesia, Amsterdam and Prague, I can honestly say that I have never encountered a better brothel than Curacao's Campo Alegre -- also known as The Mirage. You pay the equivalent of $3 U.S. to enter, and all the ladies charge a standard fee of approximately $30 for their services, which basically provide you up to a half-hour or so to get your rocks off. In my 30 to 40 visits to this club over my four visits to Curacao in the last two years, I have never felt rushed or timed. If you want, you can pay $80 for a full hour, or even take the lady back to your apartment or hotel for an overnighter costing $200. My usual pattern was to get laid twice every visit for an amazing price of $60!
    Campo Alegre is basically a huge, open-air, brick-paved courtyard anchored by a central bar area that features live nude dancing and sex shows a couple times a week. The ladies will either be hanging around this area or in their clean, private rooms. You frequently will have up to 60 or 70 ladies to chose from, all Spanish-speaking from Latin America or the Caribean. If you take a little time to check out the scene, you can almost always discover a breath-taking, unforgettable beauty. I once partied a few times with a lady from Columbia who closely resembled Penelope Cruz, only a little better-looking. I also spent quality time with another Columbian who I swear closely resembled Brigitte Bardot. What impresses me most about this establishment is how cheerful and good-natured the women almost always are; they seem truly happy and fortunate to have this opportunity to make some good money during their strictly-enforced three-month stay on the island. The women are medically tested before and during this period.

    Campo Alegre is located near the airport. I strongly recommend renting a car, as cab fare can cost as much as a visit with a lady. Curacao is a surprisingly interesting desert island with some quality dive sites, great bars and nightlife, and some nice, inexpensive apartments (circa $45-50 per night) featuring kitchenettes -- I recommend the Flamingo Park. Once again, I strongly recommend renting a car.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  28. Ford
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    Strip Club scene is limited with Club Havana located across the street from the Holiday Beach Hotel and Casino, (Denny's) and Crazy Horse located in downtown Willemsted.

    Club Havana - all Dominican girls (not a Cuban in sight) girls can be had for 60-70$ all night but negotiating could be tough. Get there at 11:00 pm for first show, pay 3$ cover charge and your in. Make a selection (remember prostitution is legal) so be persistent for your price but I think the girls have to remain at work till about 2 am. Tips to the girls as they dance are pathetic so its hard to believe that they are working for any other reason but to exit with a client.

    Crazy Horse is not recommended as it is big $$$ with apparently some Eurotrash willing to pay it. I'd pass if I were you.

    The street scene is fairly active with girls hitting the pavement all around the downtown Willemsted area as early as 9:00 PM, all are Dominican or Colombian and I am sure that all can be had for reasonable $.

    I'll leave you however with one scary thought that was passed on to me by a local when I was last down there. Campo is the best game in town. It is legal, safe, clean, comfortable and offers a good volume of girls and customers to keep everyone happy. Why would any girl work anywhere else on the island??
    Answer: Every Monday the girls are given blood tests to screen for HIV and STD's. Any girl who fails her test is removed from Campo immediately! I got from a good source that many of these girls, who are broke and were prepared to work in Campo for their three month stint take crumby apartments in Willemsted and try to earn on the street! Don't be stupid, be safe! When in Curacao hit Campo like a drum, and whatever you do don't take a chance and "eat the yellow snow".
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  29. Mose
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    I will be at the Hilton in Nov. Other hotels I have stayed at have been 20 mins from town. The Hilton is on the beach and similiar to the Marriot. The HJ is in town and not on the beach. More for use on business as opposed to the water sports. Both hotels about 15 minutes from Mirage. Enjoy our adult Disneyland.
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply
  30. Goga_Fung
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    Originally posted by Ford286
    ...
    Don't be stupid, be safe! When in Curacao hit Campo like a drum, and whatever you do don't take a chance and "eat the yellow snow"...
    I got similar information from a local guy in Curacao. Be careful with other clubs, they maynot be safe, since they do not check girls as well as Campo does. I visited some other clubs a couple of years ago, Campo was always the best.

    Regarding hotels - I usually stay at LionsDive, they have good deals($90) at travelocity. Rent a car right at the airport. Never use a taxi - you'll pay almost as much as one day rental just to get somewhere.

    Goga
    Posted 11 years ago | #Reply

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