Originally Posted by Erase
I would say it depends upon your sense of adventure and how important is the financial end of things.
Certainly here in Berlin you will be able to find a variety of ladies, even specifically Polish ladies if that is what you seek. But you are right, it will be a bit pricier.
I have not visited Warsaw but can well imagine that you might have to search a bit harder and be prepared to take a hit or two in terms of the ladies being not what you expect.
I myself know that there is something to be said for the thrill of the search. But then you never really know what you are going to get and many time end up spending more than if you had gone for a sure thing in the first place.
Maybe I am just getting older and less into the search but I find myself more and more going for the comfort of an establishment like Artemis. Here the ladies have been gathered into one spot and at least partly "screened" so you have a better chance of finding a good experience.
But I do admire those who go out in the field and break their own trail.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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Originally Posted by Erase
So to get a really nice girl looking girl you have to get lucky in the Liberty/KD category of clubs, go to Artemis (80€ entry + 60€/30min ) or pay 200€/hour for a really pretty escort who probably had no other clients that day and maybe has no other sexual outlet, so she puts in a little bit extra. But if you find the cheaper girl in a club you can rest assured that she is getting pounded 5-10 times every day, but maybe is still a good performer.
For a different class of girl you can go to Villa Rascona, or maybe Bel Ami and pay 200-300€ and make a nice evening of it with a pretty or better looking girl that you might also run into in an upscale dance club or cocktail bar.
If you are adventurous and explore all the little strip bars/clubs you can still find a really nice girl for 100€/hour, who is not trying to get rich, but just pay the bills. So she is not meeting so many guys and is a lot more willing when she does. But you'll probably have to see 3-4 bad places before you find anything worth writing home about so in the end you aren't saving money unless you continue to meet her. But you can sure have fun! I'm relatively adventurous so I've explored a lot of those places in Berlin and I write about them on here a lot so look at my old posts.
Poland is something completely different. Especially in Warsaw, really pretty girls everywhere. You will find some 100zl/30min for sure if you look around on the net. But in that price range they don't speak English usually. For clubs it could run you more, but it might be the safer bet. I haven't been there for awhile, but I'm always planning a return trip, so I check the prices sometimes.
Just to give you an idea, the first time i was in Poland it was about 6 years ago and I went to Krakow. I got some addresses off here, saw some clubs during the afternoon and wasn't too impressed. So later that night, at around 2AM in a discotheque I saw one tall red head girl from the small club with a hot blond who turned out to be sister. She recognized me and said something to the blonde, but she couldn't speak English at all, and the redhead only the basics, so i said 200zl, 2 girls, 2hours. They thought it was a fortune so we went back to my hotel and we had a nice night! At that time 200zl was about 60€. In Warsaw it was not hard to meet them in bars, so I didn't try the escorts.
If you haven't seen Berlin it's worth visiting for awhile, because by the time you pay to travel to Warsaw or Poznan you'll have used up a lot of your price savings unless you plan on getting a few escorts. In Poland on the other hand, it's fun to go out in the clubs too because they're full of hotties.
Is Artemis the only "house" that proposes sauna in Berlin ?Originally Posted by Bobo.fr
There are other establishments that have sauna ( massage, sauna clubs both sex oriented & just plain sauna) but none that I can whole heartedly recommend.
Hektor, Angus -
Thanks very much for taking the time for these detailed replies - I am thinking of taking the plunge for Poland, since I speak enough Polish to get by (learned from expat Poles in America) and I can probably grab a cheap flight to Warsaw.
Still intrigued by Berlin, but Poland has been kind of a dream of mine fuelled by sites like odloty.pl and roksa.pl
Will post my experiences in a few weeks when I make the trip.
SaunaOriginally Posted by Angus Magee
Actually, I like sauna and beautiful ladies.
OK, Artemis proposes that but I'm looking for other "houses".
In Den Haag (The Hague/Netherlands), in the past, "La Chaperonne" had "sauna" and we could ask for it with a minimum of 3 hours meeting. (as if Kamilla-Dee has an option to get a meeting with sauna at Blissestraat).
RegardsOriginally Posted by Bobo.fr
Well as far as I know there is nothing of the same quality as KD also offering sauna. As I mention there is at least one sauna club as I seem to remember visiting it some years back. All I can really remember is that it was in Charlottenburg and that the girls were surly, not particularly attractive and aggressively tried to up sell me at every turn. And the place was in such disrepair that it would not have surprised me if the sauna did not even work.
But it was called a sauna club...
As for Artemis, I think you have been there so I am guessing that you know that the sauna is somewhere the girls will not generally go when working. Certainly not for a session. I think it would ruin their carefully applied make up. I am not even sure that they are allowed to go in the sauna except at the end of their shift when no longer working.
One place you might consider is Harmoniemassagen.
I have never been there but it always gets good reports on the German forums and as you can see some of the girls are quite nice. But....it is strictly massage with hand (or maybe breast?) release. No oral or full service is offered. At least if the website is to be believed.
Unless anyone has any other information these are the only options that I know of in Berlin for sex in the sauna.Originally Posted by Erase
I look forward to you posts and will keep an eye on the Warsaw & other Polish threads.
Ramona ex Hautnah/***** Club
For those that remember her from a time back, Ramona has surfaced back here in Berlin with a new agency.
She was a very good session as I remember. There are a couple or so reports somewhere back in the thread.
I was wondering how reputable www.berlinintim.de is.
What I mean is, I have my eye on 2 girls who are advertized there. Both are in the top 20 (one is top girl 1, as they call it) and have a certification on the pictures being real. But the strange thing is, the hours rate is only € 100-120.
Looks fishy to me, but as you guys are more experienced in these things I just wanted to know your ideas.
PS.: I'm going to berlin in october and because of flight difficulties I have to stay for an extra night. So I thought lets mix the pleasant with the unpleasant.
Question concerning Berlin intim
I will be visiting Berlin in October and due to flight dificulties I have to stay for an extra night.
Now I was looking to mixing the pleasant with the unpleasant.
I was checking the berlin intim site and was wondering how trustworthy the site is. I mean I saw the number 1 top girl (called josie) and was directly interrested. She has this number 1 top girl prize and a certification that the pictures are 100% real.
Now this all sounds great and at € 100-120 / hour a great deal. But has anyone ever had dates with girls on this page.
How trustworthy are the escorts adverts featured on the berlin intim site?Originally Posted by Wm Randi
I am assuming that you tried to post and when you did not see your post appear, posted again.As a new member your posts will take some time to appear on the site so be patient and wait. no need for multiple posts.
As to your question-Berlinintim is an advertiser site. Some of the ads for girls & escort services are reputable, others less so. That is the purpose of cityxguide.com and other such forums (in German) -to try to determine which are which. But the price you mention is on the low end of about right for the an escort in Berlin. 80 euros/hr. is about as cheap as you will see and it can go as high as 200-250/hr. IME price is not the best indictor for the quality of session.
Maybe post the links to the girls who interest you. I or someone else may have had some experience with them.
And I always say this-remember to report your experience. Most posters with low post counts who are "just visiting Berlin" take what information they can and never report back. Then people, such as yourself, have less of a chance of having their question answered.
Funny how that works.
you hit a bulls-eye there. I didn't see the post at first so I reposted it a few times.
Now I know so it won't happen. Well as I'm on the road a bit, I wanted to mix the unpleasant with the pleasant.
What I can say is, when I'm back from Berlin I'll definitly post the experience. My moto: share the wealth of knowledge.
The girls I like are:
I don't want to end up with a dissapointed experience so any feedback would be great.
What I'm looking for is a real hot and horny pornstar experience (with a girl who looks like one).
Oh and as I'm from Belgium, I'll post a few good reports on that board in a few.
This week I am going to visit Berlin and I am looking for threesome with two girls. Which brothel is most suitable for this action? I mean service/price for an hour with two transport. I would be appreciate if you help me. Ofcourse I am going to write my reports.Originally Posted by Wm Randi
Sorry I do not recognize any of these girls except maybe Danni. But I am not sure and have certainly not seen her myself. I do remember a Danni being reported upon on one of the German forums. But it was a while back that I read this and am not sure it is the same one. My memory for these things is good but not that good. If it is the same one my memory of the report is that it was not 100% positive. I can not be more accurate than that.
But in general the girls you have your eye on are all indy providers and this is always a gamble IMO. Unless you can get a good solid recommendation you pays your money & takes your chance.
In truth I have to say that in Berlin the escort (both indy & agency girls) is very hit and miss. There are several bigger agencies and then a handful of smaller ones that open & close every few months. The smaller ones are generally more fun but unreliable. Or you can pay more and use a higher end agency which will cater to your needs.
My recommendation is to forget about escorts (unless having the girl come to you is part of your "thing") and use one of Berlin's excellent brothels. They tend to be much more reliable and it is easier to get info about them. In this thread is a gold mine of info-some of it out dated but much of it not.
Off the top of my head, if you want a PSE I would suggest Nicky from the brothel Mon Rouge.
She loves to perform for herself looking in the mirror and gets quite down & dirty. Come to think of it MR does provide escort service but it would be a bit more expensive.
An hour with Nicky will cost you 130 plus what ever extras you heap on. Not quite as cheap as the girls you like but with the indy providers there are also often extra charges involved.
Another recommendation would be La Passion Escort
I have used this agency three times and it has always left me satisfied. Two of the girls are no longer working but you can read my report on Cindy a few pages back in the forum. I would not classify Cindy as a PSE but she would satisfy any teeny obsession you might have for she is no older than twenty.
I have also seen Trixi when she was working in one of Berlin's bordellos. A nice girl but again no PSE-more a TGE (teeny girl experience) which is what I prefer.
Of the teeny trio (Cindy, Trixi, Alicia) in La Passion's lineup I think Alicia is the most hopeful for PSE. I have not seen her but I did have a chat with Cindy about her and was told that she is quite a dirty girl. But she is also a bit of a bigger girl and that may not be your thing. Not a BBW by any stretch of the imagination but you can see that she has some meat on her bones.
Good Luck and we look forward to a report.
AMOriginally Posted by Beko25
or Desire Erotik
The former is reasonably priced and you may have a selection. The later is cheaper but you will find only two girls working there (Sophia is apparently on extended vacation) and is a bit more down market.
Better still you could visit Artemis and shop around for a threesome. It is definitely the most expensive option but could be the most satisfying. I find that with threesomes you really need to be able to get a feel for the girls and how they will be when together in the room.
Please do let us know how it goes.
Street action Berlin
There are 10 to 15 girls in Potsdamer Starsse close to the corner Bülowstrasse. Near the LSD Erotikmarkt. Price is from 40€. Never tried as I do not like street girls. They look clean although.
Thanks for the reply Angus.
So I'm basically looking at how lucky I am with those girls.
Well the reason I was looking for an escort is that I will be staying in the Senator hotel in Berlin when I visit. And the only close venue is the Artemis. Since I'm very green on FKK life I'm a bit reluctant visiting this place.
I've seen Alicia on the la passion website and judging by the info given she was interresting, but her picture doesn't really give a good idea of her body. And she apparently doesn't speak english and my german is very rusty.
That means I'm basically no further than I was when I started.
It's either Artemis, one of the more expensive escorts or taking my chance with an indy escort.
Thought I could quench my fantasy in Berlin. I don't ask much, just a fit girl with a nice firm tight body. Pornstar looks and attitude who likes to get down and dirty.
Considering all this, hmm guess I do ask for a lot.
Anyway any tips or pointers would help.Originally Posted by Angus MageeOriginally Posted by Beko25
As for the bordellos-it is impossible to really predict the patterns in a bordello as you never really know if it is busy or if there are just less girls working. Nice thing is you can check it out and if no one interest you just say so and leave. This is perfectly acceptable behavior in Berlin.Originally Posted by Wm Randi
Believe it or not P4P (pay for play) does involve a degree of skill. That is it takes time & experience to be able to figure out which girls will most likely give you the experience you want. And in gaining this experience you have to make mistakes, like learning anything else.
I myself have been visiting prostitutes (on and off) since I was about 16 years old and believe me I have had my share of bad experience. But even the bad are good in a way.
Hell, what I am saying is just have the experience-good or bad-and then decide if you want to do it again. In a way I would really recommend Artemis for you as you can talk to the girls a bit before hand and see if you like them. Many of the girls in Artemis speak at least a bit of english.
And don't get to hung up on the PSE aspect of your fantasy. I mean, porn is all about fantasy and reality rarely measures up to that fantasy. Sometimes it does but IME this can not so easily be arranged. There has to be an element of surprise & serendipity to the experience. That is unless you have the cash to actually hire a pornstar...
And here are a few more pics of Alicia from a different site (actually it is the same agency though) I recently found.
But as I said in my last message-I am not saying Alicia would be a PSE. Just that she might. Unless the girl advertises it it is always up to their discretion and service is often a bit less that described on the site. One never knows.
No it would not be the first time I would visit a brothel. That's basically the easiest way of meeting a WG here in Belgium. And I'm starting doing this 5-6 years ago. It would however be the first time in Berlin.
I've never been to an FKK so it frightens me to go there.
Btw I just got a message from Dirty Danni, she's not available. Damn.
I've been checking out Monrouge and Ophelia escort. And the girls I like are Cindy and Elisa.
Me thinks it's gonna be one of them.
before I forget. Does la passion or Ophelia add any transport costs to the € 100/hr rate.
Kind regardsOriginally Posted by Wm Randi
And no there is no taxi fee on top as long as you don't stay outside Berlin.
You only pay extra for something like CIM. BBBJ without CIM is included in the 100/hr. Kissing is supposed to be but Cindy did not want to kiss me other than a peck on the lips. When this happens I don't press the point. It can ruin the session.Originally Posted by Wm Randi
But it also sends to me a little alarm and I wonder why the name change.
But then my experience with La Passion has always been good and they strike me as a well run and reputable agency that wants return business.
But it does puzzle me.
Choosing and escort is never easy. That is why I like Artemis. And no I don't own shares in the place. I have just had my better experiences there.
Has anyone had experience with Minnie of la passion or with the lesbian duo of Cindy and Alicia ? If not then this will be my last post on this subject.
I checked out Kamilla Dee (don't know if you guys have had any dealings with them) and on the level of looks Laura and valentina are my ideal girls.
The next one will be with the complete experience.
S-bahns are defekt!
Or at least not working well. I was hoping they´d be back to normal by November - which is when I plan to return. But it seems that won´t happen. I gleened this info from a travel related website:
"Now it has even gotten worse, some s-bahn lines do not operate at all, others are shortened, and even if there is a service, trains only run once every 20 or even 40 minutes. I would advise you to organize your itinary at
Just make sure that you remove the checked box at the green/white S-icon. This feature is really cool, you can even enter the exact adress where you want to go. The timetables and connection times are absolutely reliable."
They are saying that things won´t get back to normal until December. Guess I may have to consult this link before I fly back to Deutschland. Hopefully other folks here will find it useful. Look forward to another stop in Berlin & Frankfurt on the Main.
S Bahn defekt. Ah crap this puts a dent in my budget and options. Was going to visit Artemis as well when I was I Berlin, guess that's out of the question.
Guess it'll be a spare of the moment decision. All this reading and asking questions has helped me, but also gave me more doubts/questions.
What's a man to do to find a girl for 1-2 hr, who's up for a lot (anal, facial, ...). Who looks good (nice body, B-C-D cup real or fake doesn't matter, pretty face).
And I have a budget of € 200-260.
Kamilla Dee / ValentinaOriginally Posted by Wm Randi
The reason I bring this up is because of your pursuit of Valentina. I too was rather infactuated by her photo and she was in fact numero uno on my "hit list". This was about 3-4 years ago. When I arrived at KD I specifically asked for her (she was scheduled acc. to their daily list). Regrettably Valentina was not nearly as attractive as her photos. She was dark haired, quite short if I remeber and her body was simply average (not like her hot photos!). I actually told her that I prefer blondes (she said that she recently dyed her hair dark) and asked to see the other ladies present. So I never sessioned with Valentina, just wanted you to know that don't get too excited by her photos. Perhaps she has a great review on a German forum?
I don't believe that KD plays any sort of bait-n-switch games. They simply have some outdated photos. Would Angus not agree?
In sum, KD is a very good place and the service was always very good when I visited. But their webiste is outdated and misleading. The same photos have been there for numerous years and many of the girls that caught my eye never seem to be present. My conclusion is that they have quite a few semi-pros who show up from time to time andd have worked this way for years (thus the older photos). The girls at the bottom without pictures seem to be the 'regular' girls who are working a bit more regular and more likely to encounter.
I still think that if you go there with open eyes that you will find a looker and have a great time. Pay little extra for DFK and you'll get a fun and friendly GFE time.
Take my comments as you like. It's not a warning. Just my experience.
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