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HERE IS THE SCORE ON THE ACTION IN BELIZE
1. The only brothel I found was Club Roses, which is about 15 minutes from the airport (depending on the traffic). If you go here, I strongly recommend insect repellent. The brothel is right across the street from the river which has mosquitos all year round. Please trust me on this one.
2. The working girls ARE NOT FROM BELIZE! All working girls are from the Dominican Republic (about 70%), El Salvador (20%), and at best, 10% from Honduras. If you wish to screw a chick from Belize, IT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME (which I will explain later).
3. All nighters are $75 to $100 (depending on what day and season it is). Winter months are more expensive (traveling season). The girls range honestly from a 5 to 8 1/2. I never regrettably saw anything higher.
4. The girls live there at the club (the little apartmernts) are in the back. A "house" lay ranges from $20 to $35. The beds there and apartments are very small. Go for the all nighter. Remember, this route, the chicks ARE NOT BELIZEAN, and don't speak English either.
5. Belizean chicks are black with a Belizean accent. The English is very difficult to understand. There are some great looking ones with long hair and bubble butts. Belizean chicks are lousy when it comes to oral sex.
6. If you want a Belizean chick, you must get one through a cabbie. This sucks because you can't see her first. THERE IS NO BROTHEL IN BELIZE WITH BELIZEAN CHICKS. Be VERY descriptive what you want (height, hair, weight, everything).
7. The cabbie brought me back a 9.5! Damn, she looked like a cross between Janet Hunter and the late Aaliyah. All night for 300 Belizean dollars ($150 US). Wow! She was insane after I fed her 4 beers. It was worth the $150 just to say I did a chick from Belize. You got to do this once. NICE HOOTERS TOO INDEED!
8. Every other night was Club Roses (Spanish is a MAJOR plus here).
9. Personally, El Salvador and Panama are MUCH BETTER!
There is another bar where some locals can be found -- called Queens. Not as good as Roses.
What ever the cost, avoid Radisson Fort George Hotel. They are not 'girl friendly' and demand that you pay an extra rate, etc. Stay at the Princess Hotel and Casino. Better rates, location and service
Club Roses has good rates... the girls have their own rooms, so for a short action you can stay there. Not the best rooms. The bathrooms smell. You can pay US$20-25 for this. I actually had a El Salvadoran girl give me BBBJ and she swallowed.
You can take a girl for a full night to the hotel. I had a Dominican for approx $100 /night. Not bad! 7/10
Report on Belize
A few update notes on this promising country:
As is well documented the Raoul Roses Garden is still going strong near the airport. Prices cheap and quality follows. A group of 10 - 15 unmotivated girls (18 y.o. to 20 y.o.), mainly from neighboring Honduras (some Guatemalan too), stay in line by the wall waiting for a signal from the customers (very little pressure here). Meanwhile they chat and mind their own business in a way that resembles more to a group of public employees in Latin America than a pleasure-seeking salesforce.
The looks range from 4 to 6 with an occasional 7 (depending on your taste). The rates are US 30 to 40 to "exit" (to the girl’s room in the back of premises) for a 30 minutes round, that can be extended. There is a low quality dance show and drinks are not overpriced. The place is poorly appointed, but the AC works in the bar area, and the rooms are clean (but not AC´ned or bathroom).
The taxi fare is always about US 20 R/T
The real thing happens to be in a place called Almond Hill Obsession, an upscale version of Raoul´s located in the way to Belmopan. The taxi can charge a little higher (US 30 can be a normal rate for R/T or more if you go and come back in different taxis). The dance is much better and the group of providers show a slightly but noticeable better average (perhaps in the 5-7 range, with occasional 8´s and 9´s) but much better attitudes and presentation. The same source (Honduras, Guatemala) and ages (18-21). Prices are much higher (US 90 paid to the house, plus a few drinks) to leave and the option in that area is a nearby hotel that can charge about US20 for a while. The use of the own hotel is definitely an option, but should be explored in advance with the hotel and with the girl for a few reasons: some hotels are no explicitly guest friendly, or will charge double room; many girls don’t want to present their documents to the Hotel desk, because they are illegal aliens; also they would ask for additional money (50? 80?) for the "opportunity costs" of loosing potential clients. (It’s clearly a seller’s market there).
Both Raoul and Obsession are not open from Sundays to Wednesdays. A good tip is to find a girl that you feel congenial, pay once regular performance, and try to invite her to one of the wonderful many places this country has, during her "idle" days (Mon-Wed). They love this possibility, because they are girls from small towns and virtually confined to that enclave in the middle of the Country. A plane flight and a night in San Pedro can be something no girl would resist, and surely will no charge anything for going with you.
A few more options include a few places in downtown Belize (one is called "Heaven") with semi pros (Belizeans ) that have drinks, dance and can hopefully agree with you an extra service for a 100 bill (no personal experience in this, just references). Language with girls is mostly Spanish, but repeated exposure to English is beginning to have some effect. All in all, the country has so many possibilities to travel and discover that hobbying should be considered a "side order", not very good, not very cheap, but can complement the other attractions.
I went to Belize in March 2003 and the picking are slim at this Central American country. Roauls is still there but you should know that you should brush up on your Spanish because most of the girls there are not from Belize and they do not speak English. $80 Belizean got you 35 minutes in the back room with a nice (around 7 face 8 body) Honduran girl.
It is not bad but it is no Thailand
Just wanted to give everyone an update on the situation in Belize. I am in the country frequently on business and follow events closely.
There have been some events recently that have shaken up the scene in Belize. Earlier this year, the government passed an anti-human trafficking law.
Just three weeks ago the police raided all known brothels in the country and arrested a number of owners. Raul of Raul's Rose Garden was arrested as was the owner of Obsession. They were released on bail and have court dates pending as I write this.
Many of the joints around the country are currently short staffed now, as many of the girls working had been underage chicks from Guatemala and Honduras.
The sitauation has created a boon for business (and cheap prices!) over the border in Guatemala in the town of Melchor de Mencos. One can walk across the border from San Ignacio, Belize, and take a taxi to downtown (Five minutes). There are loads of joints with lovely young girls.
I spent a week or so in Belize a bit over a year ago. Had a GF at hoem at the time and did no mongering but there are a few important points I can mention that have not really been clarified in the previous posts.
1) Gorgeous native Belizian girls of the type you may have seen or met in the US are in short supply in Belize. The real lookers who are there aren't likely to be working as service providers - they can get "regular" jobs or emigrate to places where the economy is better.
2) Most of the working girls will be Guatemalan or Honduran but you'll pay more than you would in either of those two countries.
3) Belize itself is a wonderful country with great scenery, lots of cool activities available (scuba, caving, hungle tours, Mayan ruins etc) and friendly people but Belize City is unlike the rest of the country. It is a VERY tough place and known for a high level of violent crime, most of it attributable to the combination of poverty and crack cocaine. I researched heavily for my trip and found that even the most savvy and experienced Central American travelers advise that gringos should stay in after dark. It's okay to drink at the hotel bar or even visit a brothel in the evening provided you have a guaranteed cab ride there and back but caveat emptor if you venture into local joints at night and try to do business with a local gal. I'm plenty brave and adventurous when it comes to travel but a cab ride from the bus station to my guest house left me feeling plenty uneasy about BC at night.
In Kiplinger's Retirement Planning magazine, Fall 2002, Belize is described as "Retirement Hell".
It says, "Some may promise a Tropical Paradise on $450 a month. You get what you pay for."
"Bottom line: It's an fascinating place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there. Yes, it's warm-downright hot, in fact."
"Life can be cheaper than in the States. But if you insist on air conditioning, a car, and American-style food and appliances it could cost you more." "The country is shrouded in an aura of postcolonial decay and looks as if nothing has been painted or repaired since the British packed up in 1983." "Ramshackle buildings line the main streen of San Pedro, the only town on the island most American retirees call home."
A photo shows cut off cows feet in an open air meat market!
I was passing through Belize City about a month ago and got to chattin' with a taxi driver. He told me that both Almond Hill and the Rose Garden are both open and functioning. Whatever raids there may have been were due to searches by immigration for girls working without a permit.
I asked about the differences between the two establishments. He said that if you want a quick lay onsite in a non-air conditioned room at reasonable cost (the impression he gave me was from 80-120 Belizean dollars) and a no nonsense pick-your girl-and-do-your-thang operation, then the Rose Garden is your place. On the other hand, for a more upscale strip club environment, Almond Hill is it. Though supposedly there aren't any on-site rooms, so I believe that you'll have to pay to take your girl out and you are going to pay more (not sure how much).
Just because I was curious, I also asked him if prostitution is officially legal. Indeed he said it is. He also agreed that most of the girls are from Honduras, Guatemala, and other central american countries.
I was passing thru Belize City for a couple nights and figured I would check out the P4P scene.
After talking with a cab driver I befriended and hitting the WET LIZARD, a local watering hole. I was told the best place to go was called the ROSE GARDEN.
First of all, the cabs from the hotels down town want about $50 round trip from this place. it's about 10 miles each way. The cabbie I made friends with gave me a deal for $30 round trip. I felt like an idiot but figured I gotta give this place a shot, so off we went.
Let me say, it was a Thursday night, and when I walked in I was stunned at the lack of enthusiasm or beauty of the chicas. Mostly girls from Hondoras and Guatemala and a few Salvadorians and Dominicans.
There was a couple fat Hondoranian chicas who were kind of nice to me but definitely not worth a trip to the "love rooms".
Finally, a semi-good looking Guatemalan chica came from the back and I smiled at her and we made friends. On normal standards she would get a genorous 7 rating, in this place she was a 9. Exotic face, only a little fat, and she was friendly.
We went back to the room and damn, filthy and moldy and I really just wanted to say never mind. But being the horny guy I am, we put new sheets on the bed and did our thing. I basically just wanted to screw, bust a nut and RUN! That's basically what I did.
By the way the service for her was $20 for 30 minutes, less than the cab ride.
I have been mongering for years from Mexico to Venezuela and every country in between. I live in Medellin, Colombia now (oh how I miss it there) and this place rates with the crappiest places I've ever been, especially the attitude of the chicas. I've seen some hot and stuck up chicas before, these chicas, fugly and stuck up! Doesn't compute.
I was told later by my cabbie buddy that the British soldiers come in frequently and the chicas are used to guys falling all over them after they come in from the field. These Brits must really be hard up.
Anyway, on to night two in Belize City. I knew for sure I would not go back to that shit hole from the previous night so I hooked up with some local Belize friends I had met and went down town Belize to party, which isn't much but there are places to meet chicas.
Overall, I had a much better night just meeting and talking with local girls I met in various clubs, both Belize girls and the latina transplants from surrounding countries.
Some of these Belize chicas are dark skinned beauties and quite friendly, they generally like Americans and would love to find a boy friend. Very easy to approach. Much better time than the local PFP house which is supposed to be the best place.
Bottom line: If you're looking for P4P, go to another destination. It's definitely not worth a visit if that's what you're looking for, in Belize city anyway, I don't know about the rest of the country.
I am heading down to Belize this week and hope to provide a report.
I do know that these places are open:
1. Raul's - on the Northern Highway between the aiport and Belize City.
2. Obsessions - on the Western Highway, around mile marker 11.
3. White Swan - On the Hummingbird Highway, near the junction of the Southern Highway.
4. Not sure the name but there is a place just north of Punta Gorda on the road between PG and the Southern Highway junction.
The club "Caracol" (not to be confused with the fantastic Mayan ruin of the same name) in the Cayo District, has been closed. At this time I am not aware of any major joints in the San Ignacio area. There are two small joints near the Aguada Hotel, but the chicas we saw were, for the most part, not too hot.
Most people in the area go over the Guatemalan border to Melchor De Mencos, which is only a few miles away. There are about ten clubs over there. There is a report or two in the Guatemalan section of WSG in the "other areas" section.
There isn't really any action in the port area. The closest regular action is at Raul's Rose Garden. It's on the road between Belize City and the international airport. All the taxi driver's know where it is. However, like most of the joints in Belize it is usually open only Thursday through Saturday evening.
Another place you can check out not too far from Belize City is Almond Hill/Obsession. It's on the Western Highway outside of town. Same hours as Raul's.
If anyone needs any help in Belize city or in San Pedro let me know. I have been living here since 2001 and this place is really nice if you know the right people. We get many girls from the clubs here and they are really pretty coming from all over Central America. There also is Rose Garden and Almond Hill.
Mongers going to Belize be warned.
Cayo police have detained a fifty-one year old Canadian man after over a thousand photographs of nude Belizean women including allegedly underage girls, were found on the suspect's computer, diskettes, DVD's and paper. Authorities say they will not release the man's name until he is formally charged, saying only that he has been living in the country for a number of years. Police say, based on their investigation, they believe the pictures were intended for sale and in most cases the women pictured were paid. According to sources in the nation's capital, many of the photos are of students attending the University of Belize in Belmopan. Police say they have been interviewing a number of the women, who have reported that they allowed their pictures to be taken because they needed the money. Average paycheck: one hundred and fifty dollars. Authorities say the suspect will soon be charged with the crime of Trafficking in Persons. Whether this recently legislated offence can be made to fit the circumstances in this case remains to be proven in court.
This is a follow-up to a story I posted here last week from Local Channel 5 news
Cayo porn king guilty of obscenity
A Canadian man arrested after more than a thousand photographs of nude Belizean women were found in his home has been charged in Cayo's Magistrate’s Court. Police tell News 5 fifty-one year old Arthur Wager pled guilty to possession of obscene objects and was fined eight hundred dollars. We understand that his computer has been confiscated by the Government of Belize and the pictures found on the machine, on diskettes and on paper were ordered to be destroyed. Wager was arrested after police searched his home on George Price Avenue and found the explicit material, including pictures of allegedly underage girls. It is believed that the women were paid one hundred and fifty dollars to pose nude. Wager was back in court this morning to answer to the charge of trafficking in persons. He pled not guilty and was granted bail in the amount of two thousand dollars plus one surety. Wager is to reappear in court on March first.
I now have posting privilages and I will be giving everyone the low down on Belize, Southern Mexico and Guatemala.
I will also be posting pictures in the gallery reguarily.
Last weekend visited Rauls Rose Garden and the place is in full swing. There is something for everyone. From small to large, young to old. no hair to grey hair.
This weekend I will be posting pictues of all the joints and the girls there. Anyone wanting info, ask the Insider.
Hope Belize Insider is ok and didn't get caught up in anything ominous in Belize. Here a recent story from one of the local TV Stations, Belize is still a tough place all around.
When we signed off on last night's newscast, it was with the sun setting and tyres burning amidst a restless crowd on the Belcan Bridge. What happened next was not pretty as a day of political protest morphed into a night of indiscriminate looting. News Five's Rick Romero and Stewart Krohn ventured into Belize City's chaotic downtown area around Albert and Regent streets and came back with some thought-provoking pictures.
Viewers will recognize the looted stores as Gaylord and Venus on King Street, as well as Miami Fashion and Hofius on Albert Street.
Other downtown businesses, including the Belize Bank and First Caribbean International Bank, suffered broken windows, but in the end their defences remained intact. We present the footage without comment.
The looting and all the uprising is a direct result of the people revolting against the government. There was no harm done to tourists or tourists establishments and there has been no more looting or rioting since. Belize is not like other central american countries that is wrapped in civil wars and tourmoil.
I have been preoccupied with projects throught the country that have prevented me from getting to the photo and postings. But i will soon. Promise!
St's - run around 40USD and are mainly at Rauls Rose Garden 30mins
Lt's - run around 100-150usd/night mainly at rauls also, You can take the girls out for that price to your hotel. the girls are responsible to pay the house from those fares. most girls do anything but with protection only.
There are almost no SG's in Belize and i do mean almost none. some of the local girls might fly for it though. I have picked up a couple of them and got them to go. most dont ask more than 20usd to do whatever. some get overpriced and want around 50usd .
The conversion rate is $2.00bze to $1.00usd. hence my constant usd quotes.
US$10 rape – husband beat and held down wife for friend!
by Shevon Martin
BELIZE CITY, Thu, May. 26, 2005
Today, police are conducting an investigation into an alleged rape that reportedly occurred on Saturday, May 21, in Orange Walk Town.
According to police, a 26-year-old Guatemalan domestic of Orange Walk Town reported to them that on Saturday, when she left a bar and was standing at the corner of Baker’s Street and Main Street, she was approached by a car, which was driven at the time by one of her common-law husband’s friends.
The woman said that her husband was also in the car, so she got into the vehicle and sat in the back passenger seat.
Police say the woman told them that the car was driven to a feeder road near Trial Farm Village, Orange Walk District. The woman claimed that her husband told her that he had already collected US$10.00 for her to have sex with his friend.
The woman alleged that when she refused, her husband beat her and held her down, while the person who had been driving raped her.
Police have detained the woman’s common-law husband, who is being questioned in connection with this incident.
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