1. Ken_Apples
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    Prices 2010 on La Belle and The Lord?

    Gents!

    I have been following the thread looking for the 2010 prices on La Belle and The Lord establishment.

    As there is reports about farrang taxes implied now, what is the farrang prices at these places?

    And also - as farrang tax is implied, does that means tipping is included in the price now?

    Some clarification on this matter would be great.

    Thanks in advance, Ken Apples.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  2. Dinghy
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    well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  3. Canyon
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    LaBelle

    Actually, I think the girl gets 500 and the house gets 500 of the 1,000 baht surcharge.




    Originally Posted by Dinghy
    well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  4. Syzygies
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    Mango Massage

    I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.

    First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.

    Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.

    Time to move on. I really should check out "Mango Massage". June was the receptionist and she introduced me to? (I forget), Ice, Candy, and Bow. None were stunning, but Miss Bow had a naughty saucy look and a little darker skin than the others. So decided on Bow, a slim girl with quite small breasts.

    Nice blow job in the shower (Tulip style), followed by massage (also Tulip style). Her tits are not big so she uses her bottom and pussy to do the soft oily slide massage. Heavenly!

    Turns out she is a powerful girl even though small. The sex session was very vigourous in a variety of positions. She had no fear of doing damage to herself and would impale herself quite forcefully. Seemd to know the right technique to do it safely and seemed orgasmic too. By the end we were both somewhat legless.

    A performance equal to the famous super-stars of Tulip, but even more of a sexercise workout.

    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  5. The_Pro
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    Originally Posted by Dinghy
    well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.
    Yep, I always pay the Thai prices (the advantage of learning the Thai numbers).

    I simply refuse to pay the other price quoted and point the Thai price telling the girl what it says, also in Thai.

    99 times out of 100 they will say "ok" and you pay the Thai price. It is at their discretion.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  6. Sad_Sam
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    Tulip, Snow White or Mango?

    Seems like these theree are somewhat similar in the services they provide. If I am looking for light skinned, curvy ladies (good size tits a must) that provide the proverbially great GFE service, which one would you recommend? Wish I had more time but since I am there only for a day, I will have to choose.

    Thanks in advance.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  7. Mart_Cham
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    Originally Posted by Sad Sam
    Seems like these theree are somewhat similar in the services they provide. If I am looking for light skinned, curvy ladies (good size tits a must) that provide the proverbially great GFE service, which one would you recommend? Wish I had more time but since I am there only for a day, I will have to choose.

    Thanks in advance.
    Not sure Thailand is the best place to find light-skinned, curvy entertainment providers but if you really need to be so picky about your specs, just go to the 3 places, the selection is not too big in each of these places and they're close to each other.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  8. Porklobster
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    Late/early oilies?

    Originally Posted by Sonic Bam
    Dream Heaven Massage just down Soi 33 is open until 02:00. You can get take-out from there as well. www.Dhm33.com
    Thanks!

    I think I went by there fairly late one night a year ago during a similar trip. At that time, there was only one girl available and she was not really my type so I passed (and went back to my hotel and slept, actually).

    But now I notice that DH has gotten some good reviews lately, so maybe I'll give it another try!
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  9. Soi_Walker
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    Photoshop or Someone else?

    Originally Posted by Syzygies
    I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.

    First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.

    Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.
    I have made the same observation, in many MPs, but especially between Sukhumvit soi 31 and soi 26. I actually believe they put someone else's picture in the album, or it's a picture from high school six to ten years ago.

    Now I insist on talking to the ladies first, "to check their English ability". Sometimes they bring out the whole troop for a visual check. I wrote about one experience recently, when I had to ask "Who is Golf? " and was really surprised with the hand went up.

    In particular, I agree with you about Geisha (first sub-soi off 33). Ryoko (alias, can't remember her real nickname just now) is the prettiest IMO, but still quite off the photo in the album. In fact, Mamasan/cashier would be my choice, but she doesn't do massage.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  10. Syzygies
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    Originally Posted by Soi Walker
    In particular, I agree with you about Geisha (first sub-soi off 33). Ryoko (alias, can't remember her real nickname just now) is the prettiest IMO, but still quite off the photo in the album. In fact, Mamasan/cashier would be my choice, but she doesn't do massage.
    Ryoko was one of the girls I called out. No where near her picture, so even she didn't pass my spec. I was urged to try the new girl "Taeng-mo" but I didn't call her out.

    Previously Guitar and Soda were both good looking but both gone now.

    I agree that the mamasan is stunning. I would gladly take her on any time. Its very annoying when they have a pretty tease girl out the front who cannot be taken.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  11. Dan7373
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    Farangs are sex-perverts according to Buddhist traditions

    Originally Posted by Natty Bumpo
    “Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.”

    I am against organized boycotts on principal since I believe in free markets. It may sound controversial to some, but I think La Belle has every right to charge whatever they want. By the same logic, I have every right not to contract for their services. This 1000bt extra charge based on ethnic origin is too much for me to swallow and I am sure it is too much for the vast majority of readers. I for one will not continue to spend my hard earned dollars in La Belle. There are too many other places that value my patronage.

    Students of economic discrimination theory know that those firms that practice discrimination in either labor relations (hiring) or customer relations lose their competitive advantage in the long run and are forced to end their discrimation practices or go out of business. It won't bother me if La belle goes out of business. The economic pressure may already be occurring. How many girls where unengaged at 5:30pm? They want to discriminate against us, I say let them! Let’s see how long they stay profitable and in business.
    Asians and Thais are more welcome at some massage places than farangs are probably because a lot of farangs demand un-clean kind of sex from their Thai ladies.

    I've had a conversation about this with my Thai lady recently. And she told me that performing DATY or a blow-job makes you un-clean not just physically but spiritually too. "Buddha will not want to help you, when you do this", my Thai lady told me.

    Perhaps for non-Buddhist farangs this issue might sound trivial. But this certainly isn't trivial for many Thai ladies who really do believe that doing a blow job on a guy might condemn her to bad luck in this life and to a hellish after-life, when she dies.

    Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  12. Artful
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    What a load of bollocks.

    Could you please point us all in the direction of the Buddhist text that says blowjobs are bad and handjobs are good?

    Originally Posted by Dan7373
    Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  13. M_P_Lurker
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    Originally Posted by Dan7373
    Asians and Thais are more welcome at some massage places than farangs are probably because a lot of farangs demand un-clean kind of sex from their Thai ladies.

    I've had a conversation about this with my Thai lady recently. And she told me that performing DATY or a blow-job makes you un-clean not just physically but spiritually too. "Buddha will not want to help you, when you do this", my Thai lady told me.

    Perhaps for non-Buddhist farangs this issue might sound trivial. But this certainly isn't trivial for many Thai ladies who really do believe that doing a blow job on a guy might condemn her to bad luck in this life and to a hellish after-life, when she dies.

    Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.
    Yes Thai men don't do DATY in general because its either "unclean" or they are too lazy. But many if not most Thai girls love it.

    But Thai men will happily receive a blow-job. O.K. Some Thai girls don't like BJ too. They may be too lazy or their jaw hurts or are scared you will come in her mouth, or the dick is smelly unclean. Buddhist principals is a silly excuse in my view.

    The Buddhist principals are: Don't drink alcohol, don't gamble, be faithful (don't fuck around), don't take drugs, don't associate with killing, etc.

    Most Thais are happily violating some or many of these principals on a daily basis. Mai bpen rai!

    Some religious principals (not just Buddhist) become very antiquated, and are outdated in the modern world.
    Its useless to tell girls they must not fuck before marriage and therefore have no requirement for birth control. That's why there are so many teenage pregnancies!

    So who cares about silly old fashioned beliefs about oral sex? I like oral a lot and like girls who are really into it too. Hand jobs don't interest me, probably because most are too firm or too fast for my liking. I will give the girl a hand job if she wants it, or more often a combined DATY with concurrent finger manipulation of the G spot. Girls usually love this once they trust you.

    Girls are often scared of putting a finger in due to being dirty or having sharp nails or hard skin. Receiving a good licking is less scary because your tongue is soft.

    Kissing on the mouth is actually more dangerous for passing on viruses than licking pussy or arse. But I like to kiss too. I am willing to take the risk.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  14. Soi_Walker
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    Can you tell me if it is true

    That MP ladies working in FS shops are required by the shop owner/manager to do FS with any and every customer who wants it, that is, they have no choice in the matter?

    So says an Akane lady who walked with me from the food shop at the top of soi 33 back to the MP zone where Akane, Love, Dream and Teen are located. She probably noticed a lean and hungry look on my face as I caught up to her and her take-out bag of food. "Go where? " as she says in Thai. "Massage" I reply. "How about Akane? " she invites. "No, thank you, I don't like the system there, as I understand it. Is it true you do not have sex with customers? " That's right, and she explained that the owner there thinks it's bad for a girl to have too much sex. "You can decide how many each day, or maybe just two or three each week, up to you, " I countered. "No, not allowed. All the other shops make you sek every time. No choice. "

    Well, that is different from what a cashier at the Teen group (24/1 and 33) told me. She herself gave me really special massages more than several times, and she told me that she limits her special exercises to two per week.

    I'd like to know what you know or have heard.

    BTW, if I were an MP worker and could have Soi Walker every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, I would not put a limit on my special work.

    Happy walking to you.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  15. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by Artful
    What a load of bollocks.

    Could you please point us all in the direction of the Buddhist text that says blowjobs are bad and handjobs are good?
    I'm no expert on Buddhism. But my Thai lady is Buddhist. And she knows what she is talking about. Because her beliefs about this are consistent with the general principle of Buddhism, which considers lower parts of the body less clean than higher parts of the body. That's why pointing at someone with your foot is considered an insult in Thailand, and so is touching another person on the forehead with your hand.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  16. Frazer
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    Had a session with Bow this afternoon before reading your post. Not only I confirm all what you reported but I add that there is probably nothing that she is not willing (and happy) to do. Bow is not a beauty but she is undoubtly a great performer.

    Originally Posted by Syzygies
    I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.

    First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.

    Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.

    Time to move on. I really should check out "Mango Massage". June was the receptionist and she introduced me to? (I forget), Ice, Candy, and Bow. None were stunning, but Miss Bow had a naughty saucy look and a little darker skin than the others. So decided on Bow, a slim girl with quite small breasts.

    Nice blow job in the shower (Tulip style), followed by massage (also Tulip style). Her tits are not big so she uses her bottom and pussy to do the soft oily slide massage. Heavenly!

    Turns out she is a powerful girl even though small. The sex session was very vigourous in a variety of positions. She had no fear of doing damage to herself and would impale herself quite forcefully. Seemd to know the right technique to do it safely and seemed orgasmic too. By the end we were both somewhat legless.

    A performance equal to the famous super-stars of Tulip, but even more of a sexercise workout.

    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  17. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by M P Lurker
    Yes Thai men don't do DATY in general because its either "unclean" or they are too lazy. But many if not most Thai girls love it.

    But Thai men will happily receive a blow-job. O.K. Some Thai girls don't like BJ too. They may be too lazy or their jaw hurts or are scared you will come in her mouth, or the dick is smelly unclean. Buddhist principals is a silly excuse in my view.

    The Buddhist principals are: Don't drink alcohol, don't gamble, be faithful (don't fuck around), don't take drugs, don't associate with killing, etc.

    Most Thais are happily violating some or many of these principals on a daily basis. Mai bpen rai! ....
    The thing about this Buddhist belief is that doing DATY on the lady harms only you and not her. Because you defile your head by going down on her pussy. Which is why a Thai lady might not object to receiving DATY from you, as long as you are a stranger and your fate isn't intertwined with hers the way it would be if you were her husband.

    And the same is true for Thai men receiving a blow-job from the lady. The blow-job harms only the lady and not the guy. And as long as she is a stranger and not his wife, a Thai man might want to get a blow-job from the lady.

    And another thing to keep in mind is that breaking Buddhist prohibitions doesn't necessarily harm you permanently. You can undo the harm by doing something good, such as helping the poor, giving money and food for Buddhist monks, taking care of your parents, and many other things that involve some kind of sacrifice and expense for you.

    Which explains the farang surcharge at some massage parlors. The massage ladies who do blow-jobs for farangs have to spend money to undo the harm they've done to themselves. And due to this extra expense for massage ladies, they need to charge farangs more money than they charge Thais and Asians who don't demand blow-jobs.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  18. Daddy_San
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    Dream Heaven, Mamasan Ying

    Sorry to interrupt your sociological topic, but I have a more down-to-earth question.

    The mamasan at Dream Heaven (soi 33) calls herself Ying.
    Can someone pls describe her?
    Is she known, on occasion, to "help out" with a massage or more, when the other ladies are busy, or maybe just for fun?

    thanks

    DS
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  19. Member_#3428
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    Originally Posted by Dan7373
    Because her beliefs about this are consistent with the general principle of Buddhism, which considers lower parts of the body less clean than higher parts of the body.
    From my learnings, and it is all about what we are taught. Think you are mistaken about the oral sex parts of Buddhism.

    Buddhism has a habit to make lists of things, almost everything has a list, but surprisingly they are silent for a list about sexual acts. They do not say anything or put any details into accepted or unaccepted sexual acts.

    There is a statement to not crave sensual pleasure, refrain from committing sexual misconduct also. But there is no definition of what is sexual misconduct so it is left up to interpretations. It is a broad term and viewed differently by many. Hence some people can teach or be taught that oral sex, masturbation, anal sex etc.. is sexual misconduct.

    However... Buddhism is about showing love and caring... so if a person indulges in oral sex because of dissatisfaction with vaginal sex with their partner then that is a way to show love and affection and be supported under the principals. Again the scriptures are full of issues about sex in terms of power and desire but not about the physical acts of different ways of having sex. And like most religions you can play semantics and twist words around to make it fit what you want to believe.

    It's a can of worms and open to your own view points. But you can not say Buddhism says you are unclean if you have DATY or BJ. Your lady might have been taught it and believe that but it isn't listed out.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  20. Nabucco
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    Guys,

    Does anyone know where one can get a good nuru prostate massage in BKK? Ogodo was a disappointment, I was told. Three friends are coming to LOS, brainwashed by Japanese colleagues, and want to try it.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  21. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by Tansak KTV
    From my learnings, and it is all about what we are taught. Think you are mistaken about the oral sex parts of Buddhism.

    Buddhism has a habit to make lists of things, almost everything has a list, but surprisingly they are silent for a list about sexual acts. They do not say anything or put any details into accepted or unaccepted sexual acts.

    There is a statement to not crave sensual pleasure, refrain from committing sexual misconduct also. But there is no definition of what is sexual misconduct so it is left up to interpretations. It is a broad term and viewed differently by many. Hence some people can teach or be taught that oral sex, masturbation, anal sex etc.. is sexual misconduct.

    However... Buddhism is about showing love and caring... so if a person indulges in oral sex because of dissatisfaction with vaginal sex with their partner then that is a way to show love and affection and be supported under the principals. Again the scriptures are full of issues about sex in terms of power and desire but not about the physical acts of different ways of having sex. And like most religions you can play semantics and twist words around to make it fit what you want to believe.

    It's a can of worms and open to your own view points. But you can not say Buddhism says you are unclean if you have DATY or BJ. Your lady might have been taught it and believe that but it isn't listed out.
    Perhaps you are looking at it too much from a Christian culture point of view. Unlike Christians who read the Bible, most Buddhists aren't in the habit of reading Buddhist scriptures. Buddhist monks read the scriptures and decide how to interpret them. While the rest consult the monks about the proper way to live.

    And when something isn't clearly and specifically defined in the scriptures and people ask questions about it. Then the monks decide on what to say according to the general principles of Buddhism. And as I've said earlier, one general principle of Buddhism is that lower parts of the body are less clean than higher parts of the body. And you can defile your head by excessive and deliberate contact with lower parts of the body, such as during oral sex.

    A good example of how Buddhists in Thailand deal with defilement is killing. Killing anything, including chickens and pigs, defiles the people who kill. And for this reason, butchers in Thailand usually have to compensate for their defilement by doing good deeds according to Buddhist traditions. Which includes sacrifice and expense for them. And butchers normally include this extra expense in the price they charge for killing and butchering animals.

    And it works the same way in massage parlors, when they include an extra charge for farangs for oral sex that defiles the ladies.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  22. Mart_Cham
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    According to Dan7373's theory I should be able to pay the Asian rate at La Belle if I am not interested in BJ but only in DATY. I'm sure the papasan(s) will be keen on this debate too. Might be interesting to get a monk involved as well. Pretty much looking forward to it!
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  23. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by Mart Cham
    According to Dan7373's theory I should be able to pay the Asian rate at La Belle if I am not interested in BJ but only in DATY. I'm sure the papasan(s) will be keen on this debate too. Might be interesting to get a monk involved as well. Pretty much looking forward to it!
    The massage ladies probably assume that all farangs want a blow-job from them. And they go right ahead with it, when they get a farang customer.

    Which means that you need to talk with the lady and persuade her that a blow-job isn't something you want from her.

    And the thing about doing DATY is that you might still defile the lady by doing DATY on her first and then kissing her on the cheeks and lips during the intercourse that follows. Which means that the lady might not trust you to keep it clean the way she would trust a Thai or an Asian man.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  24. Soi_Walker
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    Cashier / manager at Dream Heaven

    Originally Posted by Daddy San
    The mamasan at Dream Heaven (soi 33) calls herself Ying.

    Can someone please describe her?

    Is she known, on occasion, to "help out" for fun?

    Thanks

    DS
    There might be more than one, but the one I know is thin, relatively tall, dark, has an oval face, bad facial complexion, and doesn't seem to smile. Wouldn't want her help (imo) and doubt she'd help for the fun of it.

    Next door has two cashiers, a man (English, I think) and Dtai (rabbit) who is friendly and charming.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  25. Porklobster
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    Originally Posted by Dan7373
    Which means that the lady might not trust you to keep it clean the way she would trust a Thai or an Asian man.
    This surely seems a bit specious.

    The Japanese, who are both Asian and technically Buddhist, LOVE oral sex. A major part of the Japanese sex industry is specifically dedicated to oral sex, since (vaginal) intercourse for money is illegal - while oral (or for that matter, anal!) sex is not.
    The average Japanese mongerer would definitely expect both BJ and DATY, and preferably kissing too, but would still pay only the Asian rate.

    Has anybody actually asked the staff at La Belly why they raised the farang price? Perhaps they simply had a bunch of obnoxious hooligans coming in and ruining the fun for all the rest of us.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  26. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by Porklobster
    This surely seems a bit specious.

    The Japanese, who are both Asian and technically Buddhist, LOVE oral sex. A major part of the Japanese sex industry is specifically dedicated to oral sex, since (vaginal) intercourse for money is illegal - while oral (or for that matter, anal!) sex is not.
    The average Japanese mongerer would definitely expect both BJ and DATY, and preferably kissing too, but would still pay only the Asian rate.

    Has anybody actually asked the staff at La Belly why they raised the farang price? Perhaps they simply had a bunch of obnoxious hooligans coming in and ruining the fun for all the rest of us.
    Obviously, not all Buddhists are the same. Just like not all Christians are the same. Thai Buddhism is probably different from Japanese Buddhism in many ways. Just like Christianity in Sweden is different from Christianity in Mexico.

    Perhaps Japanese customers buy more drinks and tip the massage ladies a lot better than farang customers tip. And to make up for the difference, some massage places have introduced the farang surcharge.

    But your idea that some farangs are abnoxious and impolite is probably true too. I've passed through Japan a few times. And one thing that surprised me the most there was how polite the Japanese there were with me.

    Japanese are very polite, even more polite than Thais are. And Japanese expect similar politeness from those around them. Which means that farangs and Japanese customers at massage places don't mix well. Even one obnoxious farang can spoil the atmosphere for Japanese customers and turn them away. And for this reason, some massage parlors choose to serve only Asian and Japanese customers. And they discourage farangs from coming there by raising prices for them.

    I know of one bar in Pattaya (Suzie Bar on Soi 4) that specifically welcomes Japanese customers only. And farangs aren't welcome there, no matter how much they are willing to pay. And it makes sense that some massage parlors might want to specialize like that too.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  27. Member_#3428
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    Originally Posted by Dan7373
    Obviously, not all Buddhists are the same.
    EXACTLY... Finally from your own mouth. So what your GF tells you might not be what everyone else believes, is taught, or understands. It is what she understands (or what she tells you) not necessarily what everyone else goes by.

    What you hear at one temple in Sisaket is not always what you hear at a temple in Surin. You can hear two totally different interpretations of the same thing by different monks.

    You want to accept and respect your ladies belief that is fine. But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!!

    The reason for the sur charge is not to clean the soul it is get extra cash because some guys are stupid enough to pay it. Yes many Farang are a larger size and sex more forceful and some guys are actually Sadists but the sur charge is because Farang's can pay it and many are just stupid enough to be like sheep and accept the charges.

    Must be fun to have a ring in your nose to be lead around by.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  28. Dan7373
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    Originally Posted by Tansak KTV
    .... But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!!
    It's not so much about cleansing as it is about balancing out the bad with good. And doing good doesn't necessarily involve going to a Buddhist temple. Helping the old and the poor counts as good deeds too. And a lot of massage ladies do send their money home to help their parents and poor relatives. They are doing this not just as a duty but as good deeds that will bring them good luck from Buddha and will make their after-life better, when they die. That's where most of the sacrifice from massage ladies goes and not for Buddhist temples.
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  29. Pita123
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    So any reports about massage joints or are we just going to rename the thread into Thai Buddhism 101?
    Posted 4 years ago | #Reply
  30. Tricky3000
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    Originally Posted by Tansak KTV
    EXACTLY... Finally from your own mouth. So what your GF tells you might not be what everyone else believes, is taught, or understands. It is what she understands (or what she tells you) not necessarily what everyone else goes by.

    What you hear at one temple in Sisaket is not always what you hear at a temple in Surin. You can hear two totally different interpretations of the same thing by different monks.

    You want to accept and respect your ladies belief that is fine. But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!!

    The reason for the sur charge is not to clean the soul it is get extra cash because some guys are stupid enough to pay it. Yes many Farang are a larger size and sex more forceful and some guys are actually Sadists but the sur charge is because Farang's can pay it and many are just stupid enough to be like sheep and accept the charges.

    Must be fun to have a ring in your nose to be lead around by.
    Everything absolutely spot on, Tansak. Good lord, this boring thread is dying a slow death.

    The only other thing I can add to the increased surcharge aspect is that it's 'very Thai': business goes down, and so owners raise the prices where they can to make up for the lost income, instead of dropping the price as a temporary promotion to increase volume to make up for the lost income. Funny how they end up losing more business when they raise the prices (and then go out of business completely).
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