While doing a search for Thai massage in Alkmaar, Wimaan and Ruen Thai I came across an Amsterdam massage.
4 hands by 2 sisters on westerstraat, sounds good, anyone know if it is any good?
Regarding blue lights:
Yes, it is a signal that the kamer occupant is transsexual. However, many pure female window girls have blue and red lights mixed and it's only the windows with pure blue light that should be avoided if you dislike Y chromosomes.
Bloedstraat is the main TS street but there are some (mostly Thai) on Stoofsteeg as well. Once I even saw a TS in babeland Dollebegijnensteeg. He/she could have fooled me if he/she hadn't replaced the red light with blue.
If in doubt, ask and you can expect an honest answer. The TS prostitutes are not there to fool guys, they would run a serious risk of getting hurt if they did and got busted.
Made my first trip to Ams earlier this week, I have already posted on the Alkmaar board about my trip there.
Stayed at Golden Tulip Inntel close to Station and Singel.I had a note to visit Korta. 26B but there didn't seem to be a 26. Around Singel there are quite a few working girls, be careful on Spuistraat, a TS works there, not sure if number 59 but has Thai massage signs in window.
Parallel to Singel and Spuistraat is a little road with quite a few window girls, I know someone has mentioned this street before. I went for a nice Russian girl called Leida or similar basement level window about number 85 Singel. about 7 looks, 8 action, 50 euros for 20 mins, CBJ, FS 3 positions, plus 20 extra for DATY.
I had my first look around RLD but it is like a Zoo down there, very nice trip to Netherlands though.
Nice post earlier and very descriptive! Well done. It’s the long detailed reports that really take me back. When you mention "The section to the right of this area is the most famous Red Light District" this is well known as De Walletjes or De Wallen, boy do I miss Amsterdam and can't wait to return.
I wanted to chime in on what was mentioned about the well known coffeeshops, "I'd avoid the Bulldog, or any of the other places that have been around forever and have a famous name -- they are pricey and the quality of herb is not there" I on the other hand would not steer anyone away on the generalization.
The Grasshopper which is literally steps from Centraal Station in Damrak on Brugstraat has some of the best buds in town, not to mention the ketema - Nederhasj. The buds are not pre-bagged and the price is literally the same as other coffeeshops, true you can not buy an ounce, as by law any coffeeshop can only sell 5 grams in one visit. Just like the women in town, you have to shop around and you will discover a few unknowns.
As far as prices go for the trim, I have never said a number initially right off the bat. Due to the possibility the girls might offer themselves for lower price than I would expect, leaving me with more cash to tip and play with. And if you had a nice time with a girl, I suggest doing her again and you might see a special touch for your return business.
It’s been a few months since I have been to A'Dam and I am getting anxious. I will return again in November roaming the canals stoned, searching for that warm kamer with inviting rewards to be found. Eating the best Indian foods, relaxing in the coed steam/sauna and yes, Febo at 02:00 Am, as bad as it may be for the gut, I can hardly wait to chow down a Rundvleeskroket.
I've made a map of the main red light district and the "Singel" red light district in Amsterdam. It's an Excel sheet that fits on one A4 when printed. To make it fit on one page and to keep it readable it's not drawn to scale.
The letters A, B, C and TS represent the kind of girls you can expect in a given street: good girls (A), so-so girls (B), bad girls (C) or transsexuals (TS). The letters don't represent houses or rooms or even single girls. In fact the houses with girls are often interrupted by sex shops, cafes, hotels et cetera but I didn't include them on the map.
Where it says ABABA et cetera the population is mixed. I mean, you can always encounter an A between B's or a B between A's. And when you're lucky you might even encounter an A between C's, but that's rare. It's more likely you will meet a C between A's...
Oh and by the way, I am Dutch and I know Amsterdam quite well. You can rely on this map. Welcome to Holland!
Very nice job ! Since I know the area and the girls there pretty well, I can confirm the validity of your map. Although you forgot a few ignorable C's at spuistraat / poortsteeg. But I think this is an excellent tool for those who don't want to take any unnecessary risks
As a local perhaps you can enlighten me as to the veracity of the rumour that a blue light in a window automatically means the occupant of that kamer is a TS? I've noticed a hell of a lot of the kamers have a blue light as well as a red one. This has been a hot topic several times in the past on this forum but a real local perspective would be good.
I've never noticed blue lights but maybe that's because I visit Amsterdam by daylight most of the time. I don't know if you want to avoid or visit TS but anyway I can assure you that the TS are concentrated in 4 streets, as you can see on my map also: Gordijnensteeg, Bloedstraat, Barndesteeg and the corner of Koestraat / Oudezijds Achterburgwal. You will hardly ever find a TS elsewhere.
Also, you don't need much mongering experience to see they are TS. A lot of them don't even try to hide it.
Maybe the blue lights are just the fashion? Or those lights against mosquitos? Or black lights (but they are purple?).
I've never seen any midgets or dwarfs in Amsterdam nor anywhere else in Holland. The Dutch forum (www.hookers.nl) also doesn't mention any. I'm sorry.
Thank you! I know I "forgot" Spuistraat/Poortsteeg. It's not really worth mentioning.
I think you should read this forum before posting questions like that but this is what I can tell you in general: 99% percent of the really good-looking girls will not do BBBJ and certainly not CIM. However there's one exception: the Thai girls are good-looking too and are willing to do a BBBJ if you pay them a little extra (usually around 20 euro). And some of them will even allow CIM.
The Thai girls are also cheaper than the (good-looking) white girls and their service is better most of the time. Although I have to say it has gone downhill a bit compared to a few years ago.
As for AS (anal service I assume): just ask the girl. It's not easy I think. Try the Latina's.
Thanks for all the information you provided me. Right now I am back after a great 10 days in Amsterdam. Your Information really helped. Had a great Time! Especially in "Vienna Massage" on Rinjstraat 244 was awesome.
These women there have class and cleanliness. The bars at Liedsplein and Rambrantsplein were real cool.
Thanks again. And I hope will be there in Amsterdam soon.
INDEPENDENT ESCORT WEB SITE QUESTION;
Can someone explain how this works? Here is an example of what type of site drives me crazy (I have nowfound several just like this). http://www.sexservicegids.nl/gidsen/escortgids.htm
How does one ever call the girl and tell her to come to your hotel?
It seems that in order to make an appointment with a girl, one has to call a telephone number? Is this correct? If so, what is the code for?
I am only interested in fs, not phone sex or internet porn.
The code is for dialer access: STAY AWAY!!!
The only sure way to get a callgirl over is to buy a local newspaper and check the ads under 'clubs' or 'prive'.
0900, 0906 and 0909 telephonenumbers are always bullshit, as in telephonesex or worse: no telephonesex or anything...
06 are mobilephones.
Quick report from an Amsterdam first-timer:
In town for IBC last weekend, I saw AMS and its RLD for the first time. I wasn't expecting much from the RLD except touristy ripoffs but quickly saw a slim, dark-haired hottie in a window near the end of the RLD labelled In Den Lichtenkooi.
Her name was Angie, 22, from the Dominican Republic. She was light-skinned, jet black hair, thin young girl's body and alluring eyes. After paying the standard 50 for F&S and a little small talk she stripped and got into a nice CBJ with great eye contact. We continued to CG, mish and a finale in doggy. Overall a very nice experience.
I visited her twice more during my stay and it was well worth it. Her performances never got more liberal, but the conversations were a little more interesting.
Also in AMS, I tried Park 118 based on the reviews on this board. I gotta say that I was disappointed in the looks of the girls. On my first try there were three girls Donna, Sara and another girl from Surinam. None were in my opinion worth doing. I tend to prefer beauty over performance, but even if these girls were stellar performers, it still wouldn't be worth it for me. No flames please, it's just my opinion. I also don't really like the privat format of a limited number of girls whom you only get to meet for a handshake prior to making your decision. I stopped by Park 118 a few days later and there were different girls (Sara still) but I was still not interested. Is the day shift just a particular bad time?
Overall, though I greatly enjoyed visiting AMS and especially the amazing local girls you find riding the trams. I look forward to returning.
Maybe these ones are better for you:
Select "Escort" at the top of the page. Ads with mobile number or email and the area where the woman works. "Randstad" means the area with the 4 main cities: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Den Haag (The Hague) and Utrecht. "Nederland" means the whole of the Netherlands.
Not so many nice women though.
Seems good to me. Has some positive reviews at www.hookers.nl
From 125 euro per hour.
6 links to escort services
Freeler is right, avoid those telephone numbers. However buy a copy of the Telegraaf, a dutch daily newspaper, check out the classified ads, under sections for éscorts', '' prives', etc. You dont need much dutch to figure out what they are.
(there are also other forums that are specifically for Holland).
Thanks for the feedback on my question. Unfortuantely, as a regular member, my post was not on the board until I was already in AMS and on my way home.
As you can see from my report of Vienna, although I agree with previous posters that it is nice, it does not really provide what I personally like in my ladies. I like women who kiss and BBBJ. I like the other things as well, but it doesn't feel like GFE especially if a girl is unwilling to kiss . After all, I have had several dozen real girlfriends, and they all kissed before they were willing to fuck. How can GFE not include kissing???
So after my experience at Vienna, I called an agency called asian-girls. They are listed in the phone book and, I suspect, have no asian girls , but no matter. I explained to the gentleman on the phone what I wanted, and explained that if the girl did not agree to french kiss, I would send her home. When the girl came, she was absolutely lovely and sweet. But when I mentioned the kissing, she adamantly refused and in the end left in tears when I rejected her and took my money back (giving her money for a taxi). The asshole at the agency then sent me another girl (a Romanian of not such good looks who kissed very well, gave a mediocre CBJ but was certainly good at sex), but I still feel that there was a totally unnecessary scene for the first girl and myself. In fact, I almost lost my desire to have sex, it was such an unpleasant experience :-)
If I cannot get an agency to send me exactly what I want, I feel that I should be talking directly to the girl. Thus, my desire to figure out where the independent girls advertise in AMS, and only work through them. But, unlike London and anywhere in the USA, the independents are truly hard to find in AMS. Perhaps iots because the girls are unionized, and get health insurance and the like if they work for an agency. More likely, I simply do not know how to find the girls.
Incidentally, I have used one agency several times in AMS called Women of the World. They are fantastic, and when you specify what you want, you get exactly what you asked for. This time, I had a blonde with a tight atheletic body to die for, 5'4", 34-22-34 and the tightest and nicest pussy you can imagine. Smart and interesting to talk with (in fact, the hard part was not wasting too much time talking with her about all sorts of interesting subjects, since she really wasn't hired to educate me). Her name is Nicole, but....250 euros per hour. These are New York prices, and I simply do not know if its worth it. The girls, incidentally, are all 8's, even though they look like 10 in the photos on the web site. A definite step up from Viennna, but these are not runway models.
As for the girls who advertise in the paper, I always worry that someone who looks ugly will show up at my door, and never call these ads.
So here is where I am requesting help: I have found an independent web site with photos of lots of girls whom are perfectly acceptable in looks to me, and appear to be independents. I feel that it would be perfect to talk directly with the girl and ask her, before she came to my hotel room, if she DFKs, BBBJs, etc. Then I could make up my mind before wasting any time and money. Would one of you Dutch speaking guys check it out and give me some instructions on how to contact these girls? It is: http://www.VipEscorts.nl/; I clicked on Netherlands and again on North Holland (which is the area that the AMS girls are in). But after clicking on blondes, I could not fifgure out how to contact the women. I have emailed, but these emails have been uniformly ignored. These are the instuructions I need. Bedankt!
Instructions on http://www.VipEscorts.nl
Click "Inloggen NL" at the bottom of the home page.
Dial this number: 0900 8 222 222. It will cost you 1.30 euro per call. This is true, the 0900 numbers can be expensive but they are reliable!
After you have dialed you will hear an access code. In Dutch, but they repeat it and if you want to hear it again press * on your telephone.
Have fun, there are indeed some stunning girls on that site.
As far as I can tell, all of the hotels in the Netherlands are fine with an escort. Prostitution is legal in Holland, and the policies of the hotels reflect that fact. In addition, unlike the third world, your escort is unlikely to spend the night, and the hotels know it. At 150-250 euros per hour, not many guys are interested in having a girl sleep with them (as in actually closing their eyes and sleeping). Thus, there is no extra charge for the company, unlike third world hotels that often charge a guest fee. This has been my experience on the last few trips to Holland (I go about once per year), but I assume this is the case for most places in the country.
I stayed at the Novotel near Rai station (convenient to my business meetings). The girls had to check in at the front desk unless you met them downstairs and escorted them to your room. The Novotel has a great internet rate (105 euros per night).
For the tourist, I recommend something more central. I was a little unhappy because my hotel was a bit far away from restaurants and coffee shops, but the escort agencies are fine with hotels that are not in the city center. If you decide to stay in another city, even one that is very close by, the Amsterdam agencies charge you an extra 50 euros or more. This was the case last time I was in Holland, when I stayed in Leiden.
My only serious complaint with this country is that internet access to the girls is far more difficult than other European countries. The independents advertise in Dutch (incomprehensible to me, even though I speak English, French, Spanish and Portuguese) and have that crazy system that I have asked several questions about below (thanks Gizmo, but I don't think I will ever be able to understand the access code in Dutch. Why on earth did they come up with this system????). This makes finding GFE much more difficult, since talking to an escort before making a decision to hire her is nearly impossible. In addition, the agenciy web sites don't show faces and even sometimes do not list prices. In some cities the only way to find an escort is through the phone book! But the sex is entirely legal, the HIV rate is low, and the country is very tolerant of all sorts of behavior. If only sex weren't so expensive in Holland!
As far as I know the access code for www.VipEscorts.nl consists of figures only. So all you have to do is learn how to count from 0 to 9 in Dutch. But that's easy for me to say.
I think they came up with this system because a lot of people are afraid to pay by credit card on the internet.
"In some cities the only way to find an escort is through the phone book."
Yes, and news papers. But I think the problem in Holland is that there are many many (small) escort services and 90% of them is not reliable.
A4 hotel near schipol airport Amsterdam.Incall escort from firstname.lastname@example.org
Cost of service
210 euro for the first hour and 160 for every additional hour. Included full service and transportation.
Priscilla, sweet sugar from Brasil, slim and not too tall (5'7'') with a perfect B-size. She doesn't wear much make-up, she's the natural type of girl (early twenties), and she is a best friend with Angelina. She is of Brazilian/Dutch descent and has Caucasian looks. She is open minded, eager to please and very sweet...
Height: 167 cm
Pictures on Website.
Service: nice and attentative. Great two hours, great oral skils.
Arrangements handled very professionally by Lyn at the agency.
At Zeedijk, which goes alongside the RLD eastside from Nieuwmarkt to across Central Station, there are several Chinese(?) barbershops which evidentely offer foot and body massage, according to the signs hanging in the window. Wondering if this body massage includes sex. Does anybody know? I don't want to risk feeling ridiculous since the Amsterdam Chinatown scene maybe comletely different as the China one!
I doubt very much that this body massage includes sex. Although very close to the RLD the Zeedijk is strictly for "normal" tourists, not mongerers.
If you want a (Thai) body massage go to Sabailand, Marnixstraat 155. Take the tram, it's a long way from the RLD.
70 euro for 1 hour massage and euro for whatever it is you want.
But according to the law they should only give massage.
Just a short report to extol the virtues of the Pijp RLD. Flew in to the Dam on Wednesday morning and after walking around for a bit made my way down to the RLD on Rysdaelkade south of the Reichs Museum.
Although this RLD is not particularly big, most of the windows were full (I was there early afternoon). Most of the girls were quite nice too, which was a pleasant surprise. I chose Sabrina from Tunisia in one of the windows that faces directly on to the road but has a small passage down one side with a kamer at the far end. The small kamer was occupied by quite a statuesque dark-haired girl with breast enhancements.
Sabrina has a lovely lithe figure, is tallish and olive-skinned. I’d say she was mid to late 20’s but don’t really know. I certainly didn’t ask. Standard for a F&S was 50 Euro so I went for that. She took off all her bikini without being asked or arsy about extra money etc, as might happen in the Walletjes. She sucked me off to my full extent with a great CBJ, doing deep throat at intervals. It was pure mouth and throat, no pissing around with a couple of fingers in an ineffectual half wank sort of way. She also touched my balls and put her hands on my leg. Good tactile stuff that had me ready for a doggy session. Prodded her from behind for a bit but had to be finished off by hand. She moaned in a reasonably convincing manner, doing her best to sound involved, bless her. This was appreciated. Blew my load with her good hand action as she had one hand on my balls.
Sabrina was friendly and pleasant all the way through, relaxing me and being skilled and professional throughout. A decent punt. It seems you pay the same price in Rysdaelkade than in the Walletjes, but you get more for your money. I noticed for the first time that there are windows on the first floor of many of the buildings when I went back at night. The girls have mirrors attached to the side of the windows to see who’s down on the street.
I apologize for the question and not a report, but I hope you guys can point me in the right direction.. Maybe a more appropriate web site.
Are there any decent adult party clubs (swinging, S/M, etc) in Amsterdam? I am here on Business right now and the wife shows up on Saturday for a couple of days. No doubt she is going to want to check out the scene and I figured it would be good to have a little inside knowledge. Thanks!
My semi-report (low value, sorry) is that I walked around the main RLD area a bit last night (Monday, 11pm - 1am) with a buddy from work.. There were PLENTY of girls of all shapes and sizes.. My buddy stopped and talked to one SMOKING little thing. Looked Central European, medium blonde hair, B cup and maybe a size 1 dress.. In a white bikini. Man o man. As expected, 50e price, she told him he could touch all but not her v, no kissing, full nude. He passed, but most mongers would not..
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